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V.com weekend vote: Do you use a shoulder rest?
Written by The Weekend Vote
Published: September 27, 2013 at 5:39 PM [UTC]
I just had a conversation with a violinist who told me that, back in the day, you just weren't considered a legit soloist if you used a shoulder rest!
But most modern-day soloists and orchestra players do use them. Granted, the shoulder rest has come a long way from the velvet-covered rock (seemed like a rock to me, when I found it in my grandmother's violin case) that attached to the button of the fiddle with a leather strap.
Still, there are good arguments for going without a shoulder rest, and I was reminded of these in a master class with Dylana Jenson a week ago: one can really connect with the violin, and if you adjust your technique properly, you can be a bit more moveable and avoid torquing your body in certain ways.
I use a shoulder rest, though, and I'm perfectly happy with it. That said, I think that, with or without a shoulder rest, one needs to find a balance between supporting the violin with the collarbone, chin and hand, and this article illustrates that well. And the reason for finding that balance, and for all of this, is to avoid injury!
How do you play, with or without a shoulder rest?
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Posted on September 27, 2013 at 5:43 PM
Posted on September 27, 2013 at 5:48 PM
As always, it depends on the unique physical make-up of each player...
Posted on September 27, 2013 at 5:51 PM
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Posted on September 27, 2013 at 8:09 PM
A more recent vote, asking if people were willing to consider going rest-less, was closer. (46 percent willing to consider, 54 percent not). But what you experiment with, and what you do on a daily basis are two different things.
Posted on September 27, 2013 at 8:22 PM
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Posted on September 27, 2013 at 11:58 PM
To recap my response in the master class blog: It seems that a lot of teachers these days are starting kids on shoulder rests from the very first lessons. This strikes me as all wrong. I played restless all the way to 18 1/2 y/o before I tried a few SRs, got the comparison, and decided that I preferred playing with SR to going without. First determine individual need and the player's own comfort and preference. Get the comparison. With a new learner of whatever age group, if I were a teacher, I'd start with as few props as needed and go from there.
Regarding the feeling of connecting with the instrument -- a greater feeling of intimacy: I can't play with a jacket and the SR at the same time -- neck too short, and I just don't like the feel. I was 19-20 when I decided to ditch the jacket and tie and keep the SR. Love the increased feeling of freedom, connection, and security. For me, the jacket was the albatross, not the SR.
Posted on September 28, 2013 at 12:29 AM
Posted on September 28, 2013 at 2:56 AM
A lot of people talk about how students with longer necks need a shoulder rest. However, my experience has been that plenty of teachers simply teach all their students with a shoulder rest, regardless of their physique. So I think teachers choose this way not because it is best suited to the individual student, but because it is the only way they know. As a teacher, I don't want my students to suffer because of what I don't know. So I wanted to experience this old school way of doing things. It took a long time. But I think I've finally realized that I don't have to fight gravity at all. In fact, the feeling of everything "falling", the viola, the bow, my arms and shoulders (though not slouching), is what keeps everything together for me.
Posted on September 28, 2013 at 6:08 AM
How many people play using:
1. Large shoulder rest (Bon Musica, Comford Cradle)
2. Medium shoulder rest (Kun, Wolf)
3. Small shoulder rest in the form of a sponge/pad
4. Thin cotton cloth or chamois
5. Nothing at all
Posted on September 28, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Posted on September 28, 2013 at 1:22 PM
I couldn't do it until I found a teacher who insisted on it and had himself done it. I had to learn many things about left hand technique before no-SR became comfortable. It was months before I could play in a community orchestra without it and nearly two years before I could say I preferred it. Thankfully I had time.
Today I would never consider going back.
Posted on September 28, 2013 at 2:05 PM
Hmmm. I'm just talking about my shoulder OK...
Posted on September 29, 2013 at 10:33 AM
Posted on September 29, 2013 at 10:33 AM
Posted on September 29, 2013 at 9:39 AM
I don't think either is better, if you need one you do, if you don't you don't, whatever is comfortable for the individual... quite sad that there are actually people who think one or the other is 'superior'
Posted on September 29, 2013 at 2:10 PM
Posted on September 29, 2013 at 2:28 PM
Posted on September 29, 2013 at 2:56 PM
Finally, during grad school, I settled on the Kun Bravo and haven't looked back. I play with absolutely no pain now (I had lots of shoulder problems and pain during undergrad when I was trying to find my best fit).
I always liked the idea of playing without a rest, but it just never worked for me. I also was under the impression that playing without a rest would suddenly fix all my technique problems. Now, I just pop my rest on the violin and practice out my deficiencies.
Posted on September 29, 2013 at 5:28 PM
I am not opposed to commercial shoulder rests - they just don't work for me. My shoulders are fairly narrow with not much slope, and the shoulder rests I've tried make my violin point skyward. I've tried a few different commercial pads, but none of them was quite the right size or shape, so I made my own.
Posted on September 29, 2013 at 7:21 PM
Posted on September 30, 2013 at 12:54 AM
Posted on September 30, 2013 at 12:36 PM
I love the intimate feel of the unfettered viola. That being said. Playing without a rest forces you to play "zen" - with complete attention to detail regarding support and comfort and not clamping the chin or raising the shoulder.
---Ann Marie
Posted on September 30, 2013 at 4:33 PM
Ahem. Anyway, I've always played violin with a Kun shoulder rest. When I took up viola, I decided to try going without. This was partly because the viola is thicker than a violin, but mainly because my friend's viola, which I first tried, had a Wolf shoulder rest cranked up so high I couldn't get it under my chin (although, to be fair, he's 6'8" tall).
I played viola in a local orchestra for about six months without a shoulder rest. It was workable, but shifting was tricky, and on fast passages I was scrambling to keep the instrument under control as it slid around on my slippery tuxedo jacket. This was entertaining for the audience, but not much fun for me.
I finally broke down and went to a shop that laid out a good selection of shoulder rests. I tried them all - Wolf, Bonmusica, Everest, etc. - but finally settled back into a good old Kun. Going restless was an interesting experiment, but I'm happy to be back in the fold.
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