From Karen Allendoerfer
Posted November 1, 2006 at 12:08 AM
Also, if anyone could suggest nice viola-viola duets, I'd be grateful. Thanks!
Handel-Halvorsen for violin and viola.
Villa Lobos has a great duo.
Beethoven's 3 duetts for violin and viola (they sound a little needy, though...like something is missing...).
I will go to my typed list of what I have, and copy paste it....
Those last 3 sound like viola-viola duets for sure ;-)
But seriously, are there such pieces?
Also, if you want to involve both of your violinist friends there's always the lovely Dvorak Terzetto for two violins and viola.
Buri is pulling your leg but there is an amazing piece for viola four hands by PDQ Bach.
BURI - LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Two works that I like for this formation are The "Sonate en duo" by Manuel Ponce - beautiful - and the Duo Concertante by Rolla, which is immensely difficult but fun.
I have published some nice Rolla Duets for Violin and Viola (BI. 40-42), check them out! There are over 80 of them total, I hope to have them all available at some point.
I am planning to publish the Complete 30 Stamitz Viola Viola Duets too.
I also sell a nice one by Felice Giardini. He wrote a set of 12 that is out of print, and this lonely "13th" on never got published, I found ithe manuscript to it when I was in the Milan Conservatory Library. It sounds like an Italian Mozart- fairly easy to play.
The Rolla duos are awesome!
Mozart Sinfonia Concertante
Mozart G Major and Bb Major
Also Mazas...but the viola duets sound much prettier than the violin ones I think
Bach- Brandenburg No. 6
I hope this helps you a little bit...Good luck!
A colleague and I give recitals as a violin / viola duo all the time and have purchased / explored just about anything we can get our hands on - there is loads of great stuff and some pieces which are more justly neglected..
Some other pieces are....
Barmann Three Duets, the six Duo Concertants by Bruni, duets by Eichner, Fuchs, Gastoldi, the Handel Chaconne, Handel/ Halvorsen Sarabande, Michael Haydn duos, Haydn Sonatas, Kayser Grand Duo, two by Kalliwoda, Milaud and Martinu, duets by Pichl
Johann Amon six duos, Cannabich six duets, Cremont 3 duos, a whole load of Sonatas by Luigi Gatti, duets by Hoffmeister, 3 duos by Leopold Jansa, 6 duos by Gebauer, 3 Sonatas by Wranicky and 28 'easy duets' by Wohlfahrt. There's 6 duets concertant by Tost and another 6 by Sterkel, 3 duos by Schneider and 6 Melodic Duettionos by Mortiz Schoen.
Some others we haven't checked out but have heard about are the 6 duos by Andreas Lidel, and 3 duos by Peter Hanswel, there is also a Serenade by Weinreich apparently.
Of everything we've tried, we loved the Spohr, the Mozarts and Michael Haydn duos. The Rollas range from being well written (but sometimes a little predictable), to being quite inspired! We didn't really think much of the Gastoldi or the Fuchs.
The Michael Haydns, Spohr op. 13, Bruni, Mozarts, Rolla's, Handel Halvorsen pieces have all gone down well with audiences and we're trying to now include some lesser known works in concerts.....
hope that helps.
The Passacaglia can be tremdously difficult, but fun when taken at a slower tempo. Parts of the final section are quite challenging for viola if you aren't comfortable in the "nose-bleed" section, but magageable if slowed down and studied. For your skills, there is a Hoffmeister duet that is fun, and a few Mozart duets - my favorite being the "table top" duet. It is on one sheet and when looked at from top/bottom bottom/top is quite fun. Although it was written for two violins, both parts can be played by the viola easily if you are comfortable in 3rd position and maybe 4th-5th for a few notes.
Thanks Vaughan for your post, I didn't realise there was so much repertoire for the combination.
I've got the music for the Milhaud Sonatine for Violin and Viola. It's in 3 movements and seems that it probably requires a fairly facile technique. The last movement (fugue) is 6 pages long and neither part has any rests or possibility to turn a page....
Best of luck with that Nigel - sorry to hear about about the lack of page turns in the Milhaud - I hate it when you each need 2 music stands set up in a line to spread all the pages across!
The Villa Lobos duo could be worth trying out as well, although we haven't played it yet.
The Rollas are definitely worth exploring but once you've played several of them, some do stand out as being much better than others. If you want to check out the Rolla Op. 4 no. 2 before buying the sheet music, there is a little clip of the third movement in my profile. Hope that helps!
It's nice to see this thread resurrected! Since I posted it, I ended up playing the Bach Double violin concerto with my professional violist friend, because it turns out that she also plays the violin. And we played some Mozart and Stamitz violin-viola duets in church last spring. Thanks for the continuing food for thought.
Just read about another work for vioin and viola by composer Anthony Gilbert although I haven't yet seen the score.
We now have three new Stamitz Violin-Viola Duos in print! They are the 3 Op. 12 Duets. Check them out at www.gemsmusicpublications.com
Stamitz wrote 30 violin-viola duets, and about half of them are published. I plan to publish the rest that are not published yet soon, there are 6 Op. 19 and 6 Op. 23, hopefully they will be done by the end of the summer.
If you are thinking of an equivalent of Bach's Double Violin Concerto for violas, why not Bach's Brandenburg No. 6? On an easier level there are viola duets by Rolla which are nice (and easy). For violin/viola there are arrangements of the Bach 2-part Inventions. Mozart has a couple nice (and fairly easy) violin/viola duets. For the more ambitious there is his Sinfonia Concertante.
Just letting you all know I finished another set of Stamitz Violin-Viola Duets, Op. 19.
They are available at www.gemsmusicpublications.com
"There are 31 known violin-viola duets by Stamitz, quite an unusual accomplishment...."
Perhaps, or only if there's an extraordinary amount of variety between them. Stamitz does have a tendency to stay anchored to one key for long stretches if the well-known Viola Concerto is anything to go by, so I imagine many of them closely resemble each other. Still, 31 is a grand number of anything to write, no violinist.com in those days to distract. I better get writing so I'll eventually have more than one.
I have embarked on publishing all 78 of the Alessandro Rolla Duets for Violin and Viola. So far I have 2 volumes completed (there will be 20 volumes in total). All of the duets I have examined so far are excellent, and very virtuostic, especially for the violin part. Here is a little something I wrote about these pieces:
Alessandro Rolla (b. Pavia, ITALY April 23, 1757; d. Milan, ITALY Sept. 14, 1841) remains to be one of the most prolific composers of his era, having composed around 45 violin concertos, 15 viola concertos, 130 violin duets, 78 violin-viola duets, and 38 viola duets, trumping by wide margins the output of any composer for all of these genres in all of music history. Inexplicably most of this music has been largely neglected by violinists and violists, possibly due to an unavailability in published formats to the modern performer. Rolla was appointed principal violist of the La Scala orchestra in 1782 (at age 25), and later in 1792 (age 35) became the concertmaster and conductor until 1833, a position he held for 41 years. He directed several operas during his tenure, including operas by Mozart, Mayr, Paer, Rossini, Bellini, Donizetti and Mercadante. He was also the founding violin/viola professor at the newly opened Milan Conservatory from 1808 to 1835, one of his students being the legendary Nicolo Paganini (1782-1840). Rolla undoubtedly not only had influences on Paganini for his violin playing, but also for the virtuoso violin writing that Paganini composed throughout his life, whose roots can be clearly found in the virtuoso compositional style of Rolla. The manuscripts for these works were found at the Biblioteca del Conservatario Giuseppe Verdi (Archivo Noseda) in Milan, Italy. It is probable that Rolla used these compositions in his lessons with his violin and viola students, and there is a clear influence of Mozart on his compositional style.
Volume 1 (BI. 33-36) and Volume 3 (BI. 40-42) are available at the following website:
This may give you some ideas:
The Mozart Duos, K423 and K424 are good from what I remember, but it's a long time since I last played them! At around the same time I had a go at Pleyel Op.69 and Stamitz Op.1 - also nice, but fairly easy.
I haven't played the Martinu Madrigals, but I seem to remember hearing them and thinking to myself "Ooh must get the music for that!" Thanks for reminding me....
As for Viola-Viola, I know very little, but What I do is wonderful! It's a great piece for Viola Duo and piano: Bulakhov's Barcarolle, trans. Borisovsky. It's on the Pearl release "Greatest Violists of the 20th Centurty Vol 2" (played by Borisovsky). If you can find the music, please let me know, 'cos I can't!
Here is a youtube clip
If you're looking some fun duets, you can try "Wolfhart - 28 Little Duets" for violin and viola, Opus 191. They are pretty short pieces written by various composers, and some of them are very easy (maybe a bit too easy for you) but they are fun and the parts are quite well arranged.
If you want something a little more challenging, I like the Carl Stamitz Duo in C Major for violin and viola. It's in 3 movements and it's closer to the level of the Bach Double.
I've just discovered another work for Violin & Viola Duo called SUITE EN DUO pour violon et alto (5 mvts) 9’00", it's on this site here; http://www.andre-forner.fr (scroll down to the section "Œuvre pour 2 instruments").
I was able to find a lot of nice duet music on Scribd.com. It's a website for sharing documents, and many people seem to use it for sharing sheet music of arrangements. If you search for "violin viola duet" you'll turn up some interesting stuff.
This user, for example, published Bach's two-part inventions, some Argentinian tangos, and a book of 20 other arrangements.
This user uncovered some "Wiolino & Alto Wiola" duets by "Unknown" in the Lund University Library and published them to share.
I'm sure there's other good stuff on the site. Worth hunting around!
There are a few listed here, as well:
Hello again violinists-
Since I last wrote here, I have published another set of Karl Stamitz Violin-Viola Duets, Op. 23 no. 1-6. These duets are also available in a 2 violin version. They are available at:
I have also discovered another set of Stamitz Duets that have long been out of print, and the cover refers to them being by Stamitz "Le Jeune" (published in Paris), which suggests that these are early pieces. Two of these have been recorded by Vilmos Szabadi and Peter Barsony on the Hungaton label. This new set I found (not mentioned in Groves or the Jappe Viola Bibliography) makes for a total of 36 Stamitz Violin-Viola duets!
Here is the preface on the inside cover FYI:
Lots of good music in the String Companions Duet Collection, Volume 2, by Whistler and Hummel.
Check out my website for the largest list of existing repertoire for violin viola duo (as far as I know):
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