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V.com weekend vote: Should you listen to recordings of the pieces you are playing?
Written by The Weekend Vote
Published: March 21, 2014 at 6:28 PM [UTC]
On one hand, listening to a recording of your piece could keep you from coming up with your own interpretation; you might be "aping" the version that you hear, rather than using your mind to come up with an original interpretation. It also might be a crutch for people who aren't learning to read music, to learn something "by ear" instead of learning to interpret the written page.
On the other hand, music is a lot like language; we learn its nuances from hearing it. A recording can help a person understand the style and lilt of a piece, things that are less obvious on the written page.
What are your thoughts on the matter? Please cast your vote and then feel free to discuss details and shades of gray in the comments section! (P.S. Thanks to Buri for the vote of the week idea! Please e-mail me if you have a suggestion for our weekly vote!)
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Posted on March 21, 2014 at 6:35 PM
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Posted on March 21, 2014 at 7:28 PM
I wish!
Posted on March 21, 2014 at 7:39 PM
As for copying, much of the learning of anything starts with one kind of copying or another. If we can sound like Hahn, Teztlaf or Mullova (just to name a few), there is nothing to be ashamed of it. If we only listen to one recording again and again, we might end up sound like this recording in some way. And if we listen to many different recordings, we could sound comical if we quote different players a bit here and there. Still, who can say this is not a worthy part of growing process?
Posted on March 21, 2014 at 8:40 PM
So, not only listening to recordings but watching performances can be very valuable to the developing muscian.
Posted on March 21, 2014 at 9:45 PM
I'll just mention that whenever possible, seeing a live performance of a piece is worth ten hearings of a recording.
Posted on March 21, 2014 at 9:56 PM
I'm not sure who the arguments against are aimed at. I am usually struggling first and foremost with basic things like intonation and rhythm, tempo, tone production, and broad dynamic changes, and recordings help me with those things. I have an unfortunate tendency to hear things wrong and to learn to hear something the wrong way. If I practice something wrong all week, even if I have it corrected in my lesson, I will have to spend the next week unlearning what I did. Whereas if I'd listened to a recording of it done right in the first place, I wouldn't be wasting all that time and effort.
If I were at the skill level where I weren't struggling with those things any more, where my biggest worry was whether I would or wouldn't have an original interpretation, I think I would have a lot of listening under my belt to have gotten to that point.
I also don't have a problem with reading music. In fact, I need more work on learning by ear, because my confidence and skill level with doing that are both pretty low. To me, that would suggest that I should spend more time listening, not less.
In a perfect world, it might be better to go to live concerts rather than listen to recordings, but I am not going to be able to go to a live concert featuring Mutter, Oistrakh, Bell, Menuhin, and Heifetz this week. I can, however, listen to all their recordings. For free, even. We have such a wealth of resources available to us, it seems a real shame not to take advantage of such opportunities.
Posted on March 21, 2014 at 11:12 PM
I listen to as many different recordings as I can.
I also listen to recordings of other pieces the composer wrote. Our singer and other instrumentalist friends have much to teach us...
Also, listening with the music in hand is especially helpful when learning (or cramming) an unfamiliar orchestra piece for a one-rehearsal gig!
Posted on March 22, 2014 at 12:47 AM
As others have said, it's a good idea to listen to several recordings. If you're studying the Arpeggione, you MUST listen to Bashmet and Argerich! And if you're working on the Brahms songs for contralto, viola and piano, don't just listen to Primrose and Aronowitz; Max Gilbert (with Kathleen Ferrier and Phyllis Spurr) has a lot to teach us as well.
Posted on March 22, 2014 at 12:57 AM
It is true that sometimes I find myself imitating the recording in ways that are suspect. However this is a temporary condition, reflecting one part of the learning and growing process in my ever changing rendition of whatever piece it is.
In a realm which requires more creativity and originality than violin playing, Maurice Ravel gave this piece of advice to an aspiring composer: "Find the composer you most admire and copy from him. Then if you have anything original to say it will emerge."
Salvador Dali, one of the most original and creative artists, said: “Those who do not want to imitate anything, produce nothing.”
Posted on March 22, 2014 at 11:37 AM
There are exceptions, of course. I found Monica Huggett's discussion of the "Loure" in Bach E-Major a good reason to up the tempo beyond what is currently 'traditional' and it made me reexamine the dance forms in his other movements.
I want to be able to perform in the style of the composer/period without (unconsciously or otherwise) imitating a violin-tradition mannerism for its own sake.
Posted on March 22, 2014 at 4:14 PM
"Yes, unless you're completely unable to function in an interpretational sense, and were taught so poorly the only thing you can accomplish is to struggle reproducing recordings by rote."
Posted on March 22, 2014 at 6:37 PM
If you have a stopwatch you can try for the lap record. Always a popular way to interpret .
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