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Repertoire: Hi does anyone have a copy of the fritz kreisler cadenza for the third mvt. of the beethoven violin concerto. If not, is there a website where I can download it?

From Roelle Eugenio
Posted June 27, 2006 at 05:06 PM

Hi does anyone have a copy of the fritz kreisler cadenza for the third mvt. of the beethoven violin concerto. If not, is there a website where I can download it?

From Marty Dalton
Posted on June 27, 2006 at 06:30 PM
I have it. email me.
From Roelle Eugenio
Posted on July 1, 2006 at 09:12 PM
Thanks for the sheet music! I'll send u a recording of me palying the cadenza after i practice it!
From Marty Dalton
Posted on July 1, 2006 at 11:19 PM
I'm looking forward to it. I never studied the Beethoven concerto nor this cadenza. Good luck to you.
From Jonathan Frohnen
Posted on July 2, 2006 at 06:20 PM
Here, this Cadenza is far more exciting!

Henley Cadenza (1st page)

Henley Cadenza (2nd page)

From Mattias Eklund
Posted on July 2, 2006 at 08:40 PM
That looked easy... :)
From Jonathan Frohnen
Posted on July 2, 2006 at 09:28 PM
I thought you would enjoy that Matt :-)
From Stephen Brivati
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 06:50 AM
Greetings,
piece of cake.
BTW Does the concertmaster play the second violin part?
Cheers,
Buri
From Mattias Eklund
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 07:26 AM
Buri - Only if he gets higher wages :-)
From Jonathan Frohnen
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 02:16 PM
hehe, here guys, here's what Schradieck had to say about the last movement!

Henry Schradieck Beethoven 3rd Movement Cadenza

From Jonathan Frohnen
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 02:31 PM
and here is Ludwig Spohr's rendition...he was a bit of a prude, this is evedent in most of his compositions, except this one! Very cute, short, and sweet...he wanted to be Beethoven :-)~

Ludwig Spohr Beethoven 3rd Movement Cadenza

From Jonathan Frohnen
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 02:28 PM
and here is the great Hubert Leonard's...short and sweet ;-)

Hubert Leonard Beethoven 3rd Movement Cadenza

From Jonathan Frohnen
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 02:35 PM
As loooong as we're on the topic of cadenzas...this is a little of subject but check out this Vieuxtemps cadeneza from his op.18 for the 4th string only. Anyone not familiar with the op.18, this is the Norma fantasy, the G string is tuned to middle C for this one. That's right everyone, 4th string only, no cheating!


Norma Cadenza #2

From Mattias Eklund
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 05:54 PM
Thank you Jon!
Fun music as always!

You don't happen to have a fun one for Viotti 22? :-)

From Jonathan Frohnen
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 05:57 PM
I sure do :-)~ I'll scan them in this weekend...for the Viotti #22 I have Wieniawski, David, Alard...and the standard Joachim and Ysaye that IMC uses.
From Jonathan Frohnen
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 06:39 PM
I think William Henley might have gone a little overboard in his cadenza writing...he offers two different cadenzas for the first movement of the Beethoven...the first is 4 pages long and quite virtuosic, the 2nd is 5 pages and is also quite virtuosic...his slow movement cadenza takes a full page, and the 3rd movement I have posted for everyone already :-)

Also for the Brahms concerto he offers two cadenzas...the first being 7 pages long and the second being 5 pages. Both of course very very virtuosic, Henley must have been something else!

While these are quite flashy, they remain quite tasteful :-)~

From Kris Tan
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 06:30 PM
Regarding Spohr, I read somewhere that he didn't like Beethoven's works? (hope I wasn't mistaken)
From Jonathan Frohnen
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 07:06 PM
Hi Kris...while I have a very minimal interest in the music of Spohr, I make the comparison (teasingly) only because of the amount of "serious" works which Spohr composed.
From Sarah Vandemoortele
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 07:10 PM
Jonathan, would you mind posting a link to Joachim's cadenzas, if you have them?
From Jonathan Frohnen
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 07:19 PM
Sarah do you refer to the Beethoven cadenzas or the Viotti? If Viotti, the edition I have is still in copyright...if the Beethoven, I do indeed own the first edition and can scan this for you this weekend.
From Luis Pernalete
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 08:21 PM
Hi Jonathan sorry for my bad english can you share joachim`s cadenzas? in my country (Venezuela) is too hard find this sheet music and im really interesting. Thanks.
From Jonathan Frohnen
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 08:22 PM
Of course, if no one beats me to it, I will post right here this weekend.
From Jonathan Frohnen
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 08:46 PM
Whoops, I forgot that will be out of town this weekend! I will post as soon as I can
From Stephen Brivati
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 10:42 PM
Greetings,
Mattias, if Mr. Preucil`s salary is anything to go by, he does...
Cheers,
Buri
From Jonathan Frohnen
Posted on July 3, 2006 at 11:49 PM
This Mr. Preucil is welcome to browse my collection. I have some doooooozies :-)
From Kris Tan
Posted on July 4, 2006 at 12:04 AM
Btw, has anybody ever played Schneiderhan's cadenza for the Beethoven? Is it any good?
From Mattias Eklund
Posted on July 4, 2006 at 06:51 AM
I've played it.
It is fun, but I don't think it suits the concerto oddly enough...
It sounds better on the piano in my opinion!

-Pa, I wouldn't mind THAT salary ;-)

From Dmitri Torchinsky
Posted on July 5, 2006 at 11:54 AM
I heard that somewhere out there exists a cadenza for Tchaikovsky concerto by Kreisler. anyone ca,e across?
From Jonathan Frohnen
Posted on September 24, 2006 at 07:46 PM
Hi guys...I forgot I promised I would scan the Joachim Cadenzas for the Beethoven Concerto :-( Here they are:

http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd6/128970/JOACHIM%20BEETHOVEN%20CADENZAS.pdf

From Luis Pernalete
Posted on September 24, 2006 at 08:44 PM
Thanks Jonathan the cadenzas are really nice. Best :-)
From Jonathan Frohnen
Posted on September 24, 2006 at 08:46 PM
You're very welcome and I'm glad you enjoy them.
From Rick Floress
Posted on September 24, 2006 at 09:12 PM
My favorite is Milstein's Cadenza for the Brahms. I think it works better musically then the original. I could listen to just the cadenza for hours and never grown tired.
From Kevin Bruno
Posted on November 12, 2006 at 01:46 AM
does anyone have a copy of the Fritz Kreisler cadenza in the (1st movement) of beethoven's violin concerto in D major? If so, can you please email it to me: K.M.Bruno@gmail.com

Thanks

From Kris Tan
Posted on November 14, 2006 at 09:54 AM
Jonathan,

Did Joachim write three versions of cadenzas? I've seen a score of his cadenzas somewhere, but quite different from the ones you have,especially the first movement. It's easier

From Kris Tan
Posted on November 15, 2006 at 05:53 AM
Btw, I forgot to thank you for the Joachim cadenzas. They're lovely, I especially like the second one. Not very popular, but nice.

Thanks

From Victoria Liem
Posted on April 25, 2007 at 07:26 AM
Marty, could you email me the Kreisler cadenzas? Thanks.
From Joel Arthur
Posted on April 25, 2007 at 02:27 PM
www.everynote.com
From hh hh
Posted on February 5, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Hi,I am new here,i'm practisinging the beethoven's violin concert recently , anyone have a copy of the Fritz Kreisler cadenza of beethoven's violin concert in D major? If so, can you please email it to me: hongmei3318@126.com,I am looking forward to it

Thanks

From Stephen Brivati
Posted on February 5, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Greetings,
try learning it from the recording????
Cheers,
Buri

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