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Rode concerto #7

December 4, 2005 at 06:59 AM · I am wondering if anyone knows of a recording of the Rode violin concerto #7? Surely someone must have recorded it, but neither my friend nor I can find said recording.

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December 4, 2005 at 03:47 PM · Shumsky.

December 4, 2005 at 05:30 PM · As far as I know none of Rode's concertos have not been recorded. He wrote many great works, the concerto #7 in a minor was a favorite of Wieniawski.

My favorite work by him is his Variations for violin and orchestra on Nel cor piu non mi sento...great stuff.

Back to the original question...there is no recording...although I would suggest contacting Barbara Barber, she enjoys recording works such as these. Also Dynamic records of Italy toys with complete recordings all the time...they are actually considering recording all of Kreutzer's 19 violin concertos, there's a sleeper!

Also here's a tip for everyone trying to pronounce Rode! It's pronounced exactly the same as the roads we drive on....Road.

December 4, 2005 at 09:06 PM · every teacher i've had from public school settings to juilliard say it's Rode as in (Row-day)... elementary pronounciation way... but mmyeah

December 4, 2005 at 09:26 PM · Sounds like you're elementary school teachers are just that! :-)~

And Ryan did you ever try out that de Beriot concerto I sent you?

December 4, 2005 at 10:58 PM · As far as I know the English language hasn't got any word with an 'o' exactly pronounced like in 'Rode'.

December 4, 2005 at 11:03 PM · Good thing Pierre Rode was French!

December 4, 2005 at 11:18 PM · yes. He got to eat all that great cheese,

Cheers,

Buri

December 5, 2005 at 06:57 PM · Haha, so that's why my teacher calls my playing 'cheesy'. Actually I'm from Belgium, but they also have a lot of good cheese and the Belgian and French violin school go together anyway.

We haven't said anything interesting about the concerto yet. I've never heard about a recording, but perhaps we could help Lisa by giving some suggestions what it should sound like???

(I cannot really think of an interesting remark myself, I have to reflect first :-))

December 6, 2005 at 03:10 AM · hmmmm, I've studied only Wieniawski's cadenza for the piece...I'm out

December 6, 2005 at 04:22 AM · I don't think that this is a truly deep piece, especially considering who its primary exponent was (Wieniawski). What you need to do is basically already written in for you. All you have to do is follow it. Though, make sure everything is very clean. Wieniawski wasn't a very deep composer, but his works get their charm from cleanliness in the technique. Subdivide everything, and make sure you can hear every note. In the cadenza, you can be pretty dramatic especially with the leaps up the harmonic G and E on the G and E string respectively. Flair is good. It should not sound too cheesy, but rather polished. The only accounts I've read about Wieniawski's actual playing pertain to his electric stacatto strokes, so I'm not 100% sure how he would aproach it. The opening actually sounds very similar to his own 2nd concerto. Just remember to sing on every line. In fact, in order to practice this piece, I would first sing it. Literally. Put the fiddle away and just sing through it on "doo". It will help with figuring out the natural phrasings of the piece. Whenever you have a doubt about a phrase, just sing it.

December 6, 2005 at 02:06 PM · "I don't think that this is a truly deep piece, especially considering who its primary exponent was (Wieniawski)."

Should I pretend I didn't read that!? Sarasate wrote a cadenza as well did Vieuxtemps...are you going to bash them too :-)~

I suggest your listening more closely to the works of Wieniawski, we're all on the same team here! I would suggest close study or listening of Wieniawski's Adagio Elegiaue or his Romance sans paroles...certainly a man who deserves great respect and is not getting it here in this thread.

PS Email me later George, I have some new sheet music scanned in that I think you'll like!

December 6, 2005 at 05:46 PM · I think what's characteristic for the Rode concerto is the beautiful shape of the melodies. Apart from displaying virtuosity, this piece (like many pieces by violinist-composers from the Franco-Belgian school - compare with de BĂ©riot, Vieuxtemps - )shows a lot of beauty, rather than intellect and emotions.

December 10, 2005 at 12:06 AM · There are no recordings that I'm aware of. I played the piece myself. I can say that its a really beautiful piece at least melodically. Aside for technicality, its much tougher to play than de Beriot, just my opinion.

December 10, 2005 at 04:23 AM · I did the DeBeriot over the summer. I took it to my teacher and played it and he said he wanted me to do some other things before I fully master it. I really liked it!

December 10, 2005 at 07:57 AM · Are you talking about the 9th concerto?

December 10, 2005 at 04:46 PM · We're talking about his 4th Concerto

December 15, 2005 at 06:35 PM · Pierre Rode: recordings of Violin Concerto No. 7?

Some recording databases were checked by

Thomas Pease, Audio-Visual Specialist at the Library of Congress which found:

OCLC: Nothing

RLG: Nothing

LC: Nothing

LC Sonic database: Nothing

Google: Nothing

All Music Guide: Nothing

Bibliographies of Discographies: No Rode volume

Nothing in the most recent Schwann, but there are over 30 years of volumes to check. Also, the French record catalog called Diapason which functions like the Biefelder database should be checked but was not available . It's probably more than likely that if it was recorded at all it was done by a French record label--maybe during the LP era.

January 22, 2007 at 01:52 PM · I'm new to the site; hope I don't violate any rules. I was looking for a recording of Rode's Concerto #8 (an audition piece for our daughter); and found this year-old discussion.

Sounds like there probably aren't any Rode works recorded -- wondering if anyone has any newer info?

Thanks,

Ken

January 23, 2007 at 02:01 PM · There is a recording of Rode No. 8 1st mvnt though this is a supplement CD for a Japanese violin textbook called "Atarashii Violin Kyohon" vol. 5. CD is from "fontec" serial number is EFCD25066/7. I ordered it through my sister in Japan but you may be able to order through Japanese book stores here in the US such as Kinokuniya or Asahiya bookstore. It comes with 2nd CD which is piano accompaniment part you can play along. Hope it helps. Oh, the CD has other pieces in it like, Viotti No. 23, Handel Sonata, Vivaldi concerto No. 5, de Beriot No. 7 2nd movement, Corelli La Folia, Tschikovsky Meditation, etc.

April 21, 2007 at 07:00 PM · I have recently fallen in love with the music of de beriot after playing his 9th concerto. It pains me that i can not find more than three published works. If anyone could point me in the right direction that would be great.

April 22, 2007 at 01:58 AM · Phillip:

You might check elibron.com. I think they had more than the 6-8 concerti. The only thing is that I am not sure if that site is still functioning.

I read recently that the CD lable CPO is going to record some or maybe all of these with the German violinist (whose name escapes me) who has already recorded concertos of Lipinski and De Beriot.

Kevin

November 23, 2007 at 05:28 AM · Hi everyone,

Here is a bit of old Rode news I should have reported earlier. Mastering is finished on this first album, I will let you all know when it is released and will probably give away a few copies right here. We will record all of Rode's violin concertos with Friedemann.

Old Rode News

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