studies for 2nd & 3rd position

February 2, 2008 at 04:33 AM · Greetings,

Schradieck.

Cheers,

Buri

February 2, 2008 at 04:52 AM · Wohlfahrt (Opus 40, I think). Good for 3rd position.

February 2, 2008 at 07:19 AM · Maurice Hauchard

Craig

February 2, 2008 at 02:29 PM · "Introducing the Positions", Books I & II, by Harvey Whistler are excellent. Book I covers 1st, 3rd and 5th positions, and Book II is for 2nd, 4th, 6th and 7th. I have used them as teaching material for many years. I like the way they are organized. Each book is organized into exercises for specific skills. These exercises supplement one another. There are two note shifting exercises which get right to the point of challenging the measuring of distances by ear. There are several lines of shifting between 2nd and 4th positions, for example (my favorite!) There are exercises which remain in one position for two pages (after which one has a better map of the positions topography in one's mind.) There are exercises which combine the first two skills, and in Book one, there are some melodies.

February 2, 2008 at 02:52 PM · I like Whistler, too. For 3rd pos. Belisario Errante put out a wonderful compendium, very thorough, logical,loaded with material, but it has been out of print many years. :( There is a companion book in Essential Elements with rudimentary studies for several positions that nicely walks through what happens to the finger pattern in a given position depending on key signature. Sue

February 2, 2008 at 03:19 PM · Dolfien Method. 2nd & 3rd position.

February 2, 2008 at 05:43 PM · I second the Doflein-volume 3 is what you need.

February 2, 2008 at 08:05 PM · Maia Bang has some really pretty little ones in her method books. I am currently liking them better than the Whistler, there's more variety in lengths of the etudes and introductions, so it's less overwhelming. Plus, there are hints and better explanations throughout...

February 2, 2008 at 08:11 PM · For some reason I find the 4th. position extremely useful for orchestra work.

February 2, 2008 at 09:41 PM · I second Mr. Steiner's comments about Whistler's "Introducing the Positions". Concerning the 2nd position: Whistler Vol II has a 2 page exercise (#15) based on Rode Caprice #3; the Rode caprice is played solely in the 2nd position, but also works on string crossing (long slurs) and tone.

I think it's nice to work on something early in your violin 'career', in a simplified version, that you will again encounter after more study.

Larry Samuels

February 2, 2008 at 11:05 PM · Thanks for all your ideas, I will try to look at all of them and see also what my teacher prefers.

P.S. Unfortunatly it is too late for me to have a carrer in music

Thanks a thousand!

February 4, 2008 at 08:15 AM · There is also "Ecole des Positions" by Ernest Van De Velde. He has individual books dedicated to each position.

Also Egon Sassmannshaus "Fruher Anfang auf der Geige" Volume 4 is totally dedicated to 3rd and 2nd position. This book contains mainly duets!!

Sitt can be pretty dire, but probably good for the brain.

It can also be a good idea to just take pieces you already know and play them in the positions you're learning. Also practise sight reading anything you have around in the new positions.