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Indicating Martelé

January 23, 2026, 6:33 PM · As a composer, how would most string players (if that can be determined) prefer for the indication of martelé strokes?

Would it be using that little solid black triangular wedge symbol or staccatissimo symbol, or simply with the word martelé and staccato dots?

TIA

Replies (16)

January 23, 2026, 7:25 PM · As a beginner learning to read music, I’d prefer the word spelled out.
Edited: January 24, 2026, 4:06 AM · I think a dagger mark conveys it well enough. I've never seen the word written in a score.
January 24, 2026, 8:14 AM · Steve, where can I find the definitions for symbols on musical scores, please?
Edited: January 24, 2026, 8:47 AM · The paper school-band-music folders used to have definitions of terms and markings printed on the inside flaps. Now I'd probably try googling it. But I agree with Nickie that if you want string players, 100 years from now, to use martele bowing at bar 721 of your 7th symphony, write the word in the score. Had mozart done this, about 20 v.com threads on the interpretation of his markings would have been obviated.
January 24, 2026, 9:08 AM · What do you think about including a legend at the beginning of the score?
Ultimately, I believe that the smallest unit for a set of notational conventions is the individual composer. Of course, there may be stylistic similarities within a particular period.
January 24, 2026, 9:13 AM · Staccatissimo has different interpretations depending on the score and the period. Sometimes it means a brush stroke, sometimes sautillé..
Your best bet is to use marcato, or just write what you want.
January 24, 2026, 9:23 AM · Nickie - I've never seen definitions of the symbols but maybe in some musical dictionary like the New Grove? They seem to be largely guessable.
Edited: January 24, 2026, 5:09 PM · Nickie, you are probably at the right stage to buy Galamian's book, where the various bowings and symbols are described. Dagger for martelé/marcato. Spiccato and sautillé both use staccato dots, but spiccato is slower, nearer the frog and off the string, whereas sautillé is faster, on the string and at the elastic balance point. Don't ask me about collé!
I suggest you Google these things. I would, but posting links on Android is new to me and so still a pain in the donkey.
Check out violinspiration.com.
Portato is the same as louré, btw.
January 24, 2026, 6:06 PM · Thank you for all the feedback, ladies and gents.
January 24, 2026, 7:37 PM · Nickie McNichols:

You might want to get a book called:

Dictionary of Bowing and Pizzicato Terms

January 25, 2026, 2:06 PM · Thanks everyone! I did a search (I used DuckDuckGo because it doesn’t follow me around) and I found that Violinspiration has posted the symbols, descriptions, and video examples of 25 different techniques.
January 26, 2026, 3:30 PM · My suggestion is: If you really care to use martelé rather than any similar stroke write the word into the score. Never mind if you are the first composer in history to do that. Violinspiration is nice but they are not the pope and can't decree any "solution" to this "problem".
January 26, 2026, 4:12 PM · Good suggestion, Albrecht.
Edited: January 27, 2026, 8:04 PM ·

>>Don't ask me about collé!<<


And there are slight collés, medium collés, and strong collés. So no room to write words in the score. A personal shorthand is the answer for that.


(Gotta publish that book Mastering Collé: From Stickies to Crispies.

Edited: January 28, 2026, 6:57 PM · If you have decided that it should be played with martelé strokes it makes sense to write the word martelé in my opinion.

BUT

Besides playing violin and viola I also compose music and I like to give the musician room for interpretation for that simple reason that I do play my own music slightly differently at different times, so who am I to say which technique the musician should apply?

In case of martelé I prefer the word "marcato" because even that marcato often means that the musician plays with martelé strokes it can vary, like you can play very marked with a strong forte spiccato or even with a stroke that is kind of a mixture of martelé and spiccato. Main thing is that the notes are supposed to be marked.

Sometimes I prefer to write staccato dots and a term like "furioso" or whatever term would fit. Other times it can be sufficient with a dynamic indication like forte. Well it really depends on the kind of music one is composing.

January 29, 2026, 11:30 AM · Thanks for all the further input, everyone. Very helpful.