Prokofiev Concerto #2

Edited: October 26, 2025, 11:40 AM · Does anyone have an edited pdf of the concerto that I might consult? I am trying to do an edited version but it is a chromatic nightmare as far as fingerings go. The Russian edition (on Imslp) seems to have a lot of “kitchen table” fingerings in the more chromatic passagework. bruce_berg@baylor.edu Thanks, Bruce

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Richard Pairaudeau

Edited: October 27, 2025, 8:23 AM · Hello Bruce: I'm posting a link to something I wrote about the Prokofiev 2nd concerto a few years ago. It doesn't answer your question but it may be of interest. To my surprise, it drew no response at the time.

https://www.violinist.com/discussion/thread.cfm?page=6201

Bruce Berg

October 26, 2025, 1:26 PM · It appears that the International edition is no longer available. Sniff...

Stephen Symchych

October 26, 2025, 1:38 PM · I can't comment on the actual fingerings, but Yampolsky's edition seems to have a lot of them! And I am guessing that those were adopted by a good chunk of the USSR school. It would interesting to compare with Heifetz and Oistrakh's recordings.

Mary Ellen Goree

October 27, 2025, 1:49 AM · Bruce, I have an International edition dating back to my first year of grad school. Happy to scan and email to you if you’re still interested.

Bruce Berg

October 27, 2025, 4:35 AM · Mary Ellen, That would be greatly appreciated! Bruce bruce_berg@baylor.edu

jean dubuisson

October 27, 2025, 6:30 AM · my feel for the English language is not good enough to understand when a fingering would be classified as "kitchen table"?

Andrew Fryer

October 27, 2025, 6:50 AM · Not all English people know what it is supposed to mean.

Bruce Berg

October 27, 2025, 10:07 AM · Theoretical fingerings, as those figured out while sitting at the kitchen table.

Larry Samuels

October 27, 2025, 12:14 PM · Bruce, Just fyi, my local library has a Kalmus edition of the Prokofiev 2nd, but there are no fingerings provided in the part.

Andrew Fryer

Edited: October 27, 2025, 12:16 PM · We tend to say "armchair" rather than "kitchen table", for theoretical behaviour, but in this context I'm not so sure.

Bruce Berg

October 27, 2025, 3:05 PM · It comes from the fact that Galamian sat at the kitchen table with no violin when he was doing his editions.

jean dubuisson

October 27, 2025, 3:52 PM · It is very relatable. I often prepare parts on the kitchen table, and indeed, many of my kitchen table fingerings turn out to be suboptimal upon actually practicing the material!

Mary Ellen Goree

October 27, 2025, 4:51 PM · Bruce - done. It’s a very large file so I had to send it by mail drop. Please let me know if there’s any problem downloading it.

Prokofiev Concerto #2

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