I have a German Trade Violin. When I got it, there were gut stings on it. I have been using Dominants on it but when I install the strings, I have to cut the cloth off of them so the will fit in the tail piece slots (they are too fat). I have since had Wittner pegs installed and now no longer use a ball E string. I am considering getting loop end strings soon. I have searched the web and found two opinions on how to install them. One says use the knot to hold the string in the tail piece slot. The other says put the loop through the slot and the put the end of the string into the loop, securing it to the tail piece. I would like more opinions on how to go about this. Thanks in advance.
I have gear pegs too and I still used ball-end strings. I know what you mean about the silk on the strings making it hard for them to fit in the slots in the tailpiece. I just widened the slots a bit with a small file. Voila!
™ - When I used loop-end strings I put them on the tailpiece both ways you described and if I recall correctly I did not find either shortened the life differently - but I was playing more then and I pretty much changed my strings before they broke. But if I could hazard an guess, I would estimate that holding the string by the knot under the tailpiece might end its life sooner because of contact with the tailpiece material.
Thank You Mr. Victor. I received my strings, Tonicas. However, to my surprise, only the E string is looped. The other three have ball ends. However, I was lucky. Tonica strings are thinner than Dominants so they fit in my tail piece slots. Would anyone give a estimate (hours) on how long to break them in? On my violin, right now, brand new, they sound muffled with little ring to them.
Only E strings come in ball and loop ends. All other strings will be ball end.
If I start to try different strings, I guess I will have to get my tail piece slots expanded then. These Tonica strings sound a little better after fours time on them but are still expanding. So far, they are darker, on my violin than Dominants.
Opening up the slot in the tailpiece with a small file is what I'd do if the slot was way too narrow for the string's overwrap; I wouldn't take it off. The first thing I'd try, though, would be to flatten the overwrap with flat-jawed pliers and see if that would fit in the slot. The E string usually isn't a problem, and I'd only use a loop-end if I was going to use a Hill-style fine tuner.
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March 17, 2017 at 12:23 AM · Bassicaly, there are two types of E strings. There are the common ball end strings which you insert the ball into the fine tuner and pull tight. Then you insert the string and wind it into the pegs.
Loop end strings are quite simple. You put the loop over the tuner and keep it tight. It should rest in the little groove of the little metal rod. If the little metal rod has two ends, put the loop around both of them. Then you insert and wind the string into the peg.
Loop and ball end strings require different types of fine tuners, but some tuners are now hybrids which can use both.
This should help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzU7Vm0XN-o