I have been agonizing about giving up the violin for many months. One of my main complaints has been the variability in sound that can happen on a daily basis. ( or is that me?). Just how much should I trust a violin at near VSO prices?
But then I realized that I already owned a very stable violin. My electric which I have pretty much ignored. It does the same thing everyday except sound like a convincing acoustic. It faithfully reproduces my input (good and bad) and I think intonation is better without some misleading overtones at times.
So, I am not as bad as I thought but is there life after acoustic?
The electric may open new possibilities ( including people tripping over my amp cables).
My intonation is better once I have packed enough cotton balls firmly in my ears...
Darlene...I can't quite puzzle out exactly what it is you want. I understand the day-day variation you think you are hearing annoys you...
Have you ever tried a mandolin? Once you develop a decent tremolo it's a lovely sound. And you can chord on it. I was just thinking that maybe the frets will work for you.
The best violins sound different day to day, city to city, season to season.
The best violinists deal with those differences. The better the violin, the more sensitive it is to changes in the environment.
The electric aspect of the violin is only as constant as the quality of your equipment.
I listen to and adjust violin for a living. My allergies cause changes in what I hear on a daily basis.
Even with the electric violin and a fine amp, you'll hear it different each and every day.
Let's distinguish between a traditional violin with an electric pickup, and an electric violin where the body is there only to present the geometry of the strings for playing.
The former depends on a frequently temperamental thin, wood shell to color and amplify the tone of the strings.
The latter takes the energy and timbre of the strings, amplifies it and sends it to a speaker. The body is there only to reproduce the geometry of the strings to the fingers and bow.
A well made electric violin should be impervious to environmental changes, and not suffer from maladies that commonly affect traditional violins, like uneven response in certain note ranges, and harsh and wolf tones at certain frequencies.
What you hear is what your fingers and bow create.
You can find conversations on the internet of world famous violinists talking about their multi-million dollar violins. Tremendous tonal range, dynamics, loudness and projection can come at a steep price in ease of play.
My electric is a solid body with a small 10 watt amp.
I think that the subdued harmonic content can be a help sometimes.
Seraphim .... Have you tried fret tapes ?
Duane wrote, "The better the violin, the more sensitive it is to changes in the environment."
I don't accept this claim without evidence. The best violin I have ever owned is also the most stable.
One thing I see nowadays is that many students of the violin, especially teenage students, get into the habit of tuning their violins by tugging violently on the strings or pushing on them inside the pegbox. They're advanced enough to hear out-of-tune strings but either they haven't developed good tuning technique or their violins have bad pegs. It's one thing if you are playing in a string quartet and realize that your D string is a little low, but it's not a good idea for this pushing-and-pulling to become one's go-to method of tuning one's violin before daily practice. I hypothesize (but do not claim) that this tuning method is the cause of much observed violin instability.
I don't see how you can ever learn to play in tune with a solid-body electric violin. Does it even have "ring tones" at all?
A quote especially for Darlene, "Don't ever,ever, ever, ever give up." Winston Churchill. It is a wonderful maxim inculcated in my psyche and handy to think of in frustrating
moments in life.
Stick with your violin and practice routine Darlene. Perhaps switch things up and work on easier pieces, or maybe more practice time on fun stuff you enjoy playing and just wait for the motivation to come back to work on your difficult exercises. I for one like to read the questions you pose here on this forum, and the replies to your questions from brilliant players around the world. Pretty cool.
Paul. My electric requires a lot of imagination to even begin to approach the violin sound we are used to. However, there is a lot of equipment out there to manipulate spectrums/effects.
I have owned 5 acoustic violins (max $2k) and they were all a nuisance but I've lived in some extreme conditions.
How does a person know how an acoustic will behave after months, years? (If violins are constantly changing or aging, I wonder if Stradivarus ever heard a Strad?)
I think I have the impression that electric pitch is better because the simplified feedback makes it easier to identify the notes.
I also like that I can play softly without any special bow techniques.
If you like it better, then go right ahead and play it. No need for approval from the online community.
I believe you like Helicores? Dada rio also makes special strings specifically for electric violins.
I plan to follow through and give the electric more of a chance but I have to make up my mind before the holidays in case I have to play something at church.
Yes, I favor Helicores but my guess is that the electric will want "softer" strings for more violin sound but I'm not sure what that will be?
I think the original dealer strings were Tonica.
.. I wonder if Stradivarus ever heard a Strad?...
Well, no. He heard the Baroque version of his violins. The ones still being played have been heavily modified.
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August 12, 2015 at 03:07 AM · Intonation is not "better" on your electric violin, it's just less audible precisely because of the "overtones" that it lacks.