Sibelius Urtext

April 14, 2012 at 03:20 AM · I don't believe there is an "official" urtext of the Sibelius concerto (like a Barenreiter or Henle). Does anyone know how many of the bowings (if any) in the usual editions like International or Schirmers are actually Sibelius' rather than the various editors?

Since he was a violinist I was wondering how much information he put into the solo part. For example, I've never cared for the repeated down bows in measure 8 of the third movement (and where the passage recurs later). Did he write these or an editor? (of course, even if Sibelius wrote it doesn't mean one has to do it)

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Momoko Takahashi

April 14, 2012 at 04:36 AM · Sibelius's Concerto actually include two versions; the first one is the original, uneditted and unmodified, and evidently quite different from what we know today. I know you can get the music for that (I got it from a library once); Kavakos made a recording of it. The music is licensed, however, to the Sibelius' estate, and cannot be performed without permission.

The regular version... I've never seen an urtext, and Barenreiter doesn't have it. There is a manuscript in Sibelius Museum in Helsinki, but that's about it.

Simon Streuff

April 14, 2012 at 11:58 AM · I think you will have some kind of an "Urtext" if you check the violin solo part in a partitur.

Clinton F. Nieweg

April 15, 2012 at 06:04 PM · The "Urtext' that is currently available is:

Sibelius, Jean (1865-1957)

Violin Concerto in D minor op. 47 (Revised Version)

Vln Solo—2.2.2.2—4.2.3.0—Timp—Str / 32'

Pub:Schlesinger, 1905. Plate S.9336.

/Robert Lienau/Zimmerman Musikverlag [Agent C. F. Peters NY]

Full Score/Partitur D 3114; RL32630 $45.00

Study Score [New edition of the Sibelius works?] RL32640 $17.95

Violin and piano RL32650 $31.50 may be the same as:

http://conquest.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/8/8f/IMSLP04331-Violin_Concerto_in_d__Op_47.pdf

Revised Orchestra parts on rental from C.F Peters. [These are not corrected to the New edition score]

Revised Orchestra parts on sale Edwin F. Kalmus LC. A2044 Sc.$40.00 Set $110.00 [These are not corrected to the New edition score] 19 page errata list for the orchestra parts has been created.

Also Published: directly from Zimmerman Musikverlag - Violin & Piano D 2420 [no price listed]

Jean Sibelius Works (JSW)- A Critical Edition

http://www.nationallibrary.fi/culture/sibelius.html

In progress - Not yet published 2012.

•II/1 Violin Concerto, Op. 47 (two versions), ed. by Timo Virtanen

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