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Capo for violin playing?

February 21, 2008 at 07:06 AM · In the book of Cajun Fiddle taught by Michael Doucet, he mentions about shuffling the A cord using the 1st finger capo position...or sliding it up. As I've just started learning to play the guitar, we use this little thing to "capo" or make our notes higher.

Is shifting to third position on the violin, essentially like a "capo" on the guitar? This confused me in this terminology, because my first instrument is the violin, so of course it is called third position, etc.

It has been interesting trying to make my own notes for a bluegrass gospel band that I play in.....gail

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February 21, 2008 at 10:50 AM · It might be more analogous to a guitar bar chord, which allows you to use the same fingering to play in different keys. For instance, if you play an F major chord with the bar across the first fret, you can simply slide the whole business up to the sixth fret to play a B flat major chord. A capo, on the other hand, is a mechanical device that acts as a de facto nut, allowing you to change the pitch of the open strings, and thereby letting you use certain fingerings that would have been difficult or impossible with a EADGBE tuning. (Particularly if you want to play chords with open strings.) It's worth noting that when you play a bar chord, your finger basically acts as a capo. Figure that if you play a first position E major chord, with the low-E, B, and high-E strings open, and then play the aforementioned first-fret F major chord, the pattern basically remains the same save for your index finger which forms the bar across the first fret, turning the two Es to Fs and the B to a C.

As far as the violin goes, any quadruple stop chord can be transposed up or down just like a bar chord on a guitar. To use the A major example, if you keep the same fingering, but shift to second position, you'll have a B major chord. In third position, it'll be a C major chord, and so on and so forth. Hope that helps.

February 21, 2008 at 01:14 PM · Like a lot of fiddlers, Michael's applying the terms from one instrument to another. Works if you know the tech on the instrument referred to. Some Cajun fiddlers finger on all 4 strings for seconding patterns. If you're doing this, you can slide the entire framework to a new chord. But just like frets get closer on the guitar, you have to slightly compress the formation as you go up, re-open as you come down. Same string-length reason for how far apart (whole) steps are in 1st pos.vln.compared to each higher pos. Not all Cajun players use those twisty/crampy chord fingerings, including really skilled ones, so I wouldn't obsess on it. Other things make your sound more authentic than that particular skill. Sue

February 21, 2008 at 04:10 PM · Mike is one of the true geniuses of the guitar...-I didn't know you played the violin-

February 21, 2008 at 05:42 PM · That's not Mike. That's Mike's cousin Michael.

February 21, 2008 at 08:14 PM · Thanks, Jim, but that doesn't mean Jay's not onto something!

February 21, 2008 at 08:47 PM · In that case, the "is there a line, and should we cross it" thread could use some genius for once.

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