Dvorak concerto editions
Anyone got thoughts on the best current edition of the Dvorak violin concerto? Henle, Barenreiter, International, something else?
The international Galamian edition is good. He always had good fingering and bowing selections.
Lydia, I also use the international Galamian edition. It's a beautiful piece and it's not as hard as it sounds. There's no awkwardness in the hand, as I recall. I didn't learn the 3rd movement so the entire piece may be harder than I thought. You've done Tchaikovsky so I'd think this one will be a piece of cake for you.
If I were looking for a blank, scholarly urtext, unmarked: Barenreiter or Henle?
I don't think you can go wrong with either Barenreiter or Henle. I'd probably try Barenreiter first.
Try the Schott edition with Max Rostal, love it!
We just got a card in the mail from Sheet Music Plus, advertising a Barenreiter 20% off sale starting soon.
Thanks all. I ordered a Barenreiter before I saw the last two posts. :-P
Dvorak is an extraordinarily awkward concerto...I envy the ease that Ms. Zhang finds in the piece! Come up with bowings and fingerings that fit your hand - not Galamian's, Francescatti's, or anyone else's. Do you have a private teacher to assist in sound, logical markings?
I study with Emil Chudnovsky, whom I'm sure you know. :-)
I like the editions that come with one Urtext and one marked-up. That way if you feel stuck on how to finger or bow something you can take a peek at what the editor recommends.
I thought that was the case with the Barenreiter, but apparently it's only the case with the Henle.
Mr. Sords, if you think the Dvorak is an extraordinarily awkward, it's likely I don't know what I'm talking about. I worked on mvt 1 and 2, but not the last mvt. With the help of my teacher, I found the music is pretty much all in the notes, and the notes are "in the hand". But I did underestimate the difficulty of some works in the past, so I wouldn't be surprised if I have underestimated the difficulty of this one.
My edition is off of IMSLP, but if I were buying new, I would probably go with Barenreiter. Easy for an old guy like me to see, and it does not usually have edits. Henle tends to be edited although the urtext is shown clearly. The only other suggestion is to find an edition edited by some violinist whose version of the piece you like to listen to, so you can take advantage of whatever that violinist has to offer in the way of edits. Good luck!
Ms. Zhang - I've always found the Dvorak supremely awkward and unviolinistic - certainly much more challenging than, say, Lalo and Tchaikovsky. Even after performances of the piece with a dozen different orchestras, it never gets easier! The walk-off-the-plane concerti (Bruch, Mendelssohn, Tchaik) seem to stay in the fingers...Sibelius, Dvorak, Barber 3rd mvt...not so much!
Andrew many thanks for posting on this forum!
The earliest edition would surely be Simrock's, wouldn't it? The best ... THAT's another question!
Now that I've had a week to look at it, and a lesson, I agree on the awkwardness. Lots of places where there's not a good fingering solution, and many places requiring non-intuitive shifts in order to maintain the color of a single string. The intervals of a fifth are awkward, too. Not so much difficult in the traditional sense, as inconvenient; it doesn't really feel like it lies in the hand well for me. Beautiful, though.
I used my teacher's fingerings and I found it wasn't as hard as it sounds. I find the notes were more manageable and the whole thing was less exposed than Mendelssohn. Musically speaking it is pretty straightforward too. One pretty melody after the other and you don't have to think so much as,say, with Mozart. Not sure about the last mvt because I didn't learn it.
That's interesting. I would judge it to be substantially more difficult than Mendelssohn, but this might be because I'm doing a much more complicated set of fingerings.
Probably. Keep it simple! :)
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