Violin concertos for student done with suzuki book 5

August 31, 2023, 2:28 PM · Suggestions for violin concertos as a student pretty much finished with suzuki book 5? I’ve checked out Accolay and Kabalevsky, and enjoyed both quite well! Also checked out Viotti, but I’m a bit on the fence with that one. I like pieces with a sort of melodrama to them, but I also like to try all sorts of techniques and tones. I also like double stops and some left hand pizz

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August 31, 2023, 6:28 PM · Around that level my kids played Seitz Concerto in G Minor (much harder than the Book 4 pieces), then Accolay, then Viotti and Kabalevsky. In there was also deBeriot 9 and some smaller pieces like Boy Paganini and Czardas.
August 31, 2023, 9:01 PM · Try this:

Bruch - Violin Concerto No. 1 in G minor, Op. 26
Lalo - Symphonie espagnole, Op. 21
Saint-Saëns - Violin Concerto No. 3 in B minor, Op. 61

August 31, 2023, 9:46 PM · Lucy - aren't those three still a bit of a jump after Book 5?
August 31, 2023, 10:01 PM · DD is now working on the Saint-Saëns, and it’s been several years since she got past Suzuki Book 5. WAY too big of a leap. What Susan suggested sounds like a good progression.
August 31, 2023, 10:48 PM · It depends on the trajectory of the student. Book 5 is like Vivaldi G Minor, right? Kabalevsky and Viotti are both significant jumps from that, but if you've gone from Twinkle to the end of Book 5 in three months then probably you'll be fine. By the way Viotti wrote a lot of concertos besides just No. 23. I personally find No. 22 more musically rewarding.

I would suggest Haydn G Major at the end of Book 5. Then the Beethoven Op. 50 Romance (F major) for clean lines and somewhat higher finger board work. The Handel Sonatas in Book 6 are very useful to learn, as is the Bach A Minor Concerto in Book 7.

If you like left-hand pizz, you will enjoy "Souvenir de Sarasate" by Potstock in Volume 3 of Barbara Barber's "Solo for Young Violinists." I don't think it's beneath the Book 5 level.

August 31, 2023, 10:56 PM · Greetings,
DeBeriot 9 is a big help in preparing for the Bruch, Saint Seans and Lalo which, as noted above are a whole new ball game.
August 31, 2023, 11:09 PM · Yeah, Suzuki book 5 is Vivaldi G minor. So the next step is usually something like Haydn G major, then Bach A minor, and then possibly an easier Viotti like No. 23. Then maybe something like Kreutzer No. 13 before DeBeriot No. 9, Mozart 3 (the G major), and then finally Kabalevsky. Order there depends on a student's strengths and weaknesses, but Suzuki book 5 is years away from the major Romantic concerto repertoire.
September 1, 2023, 5:57 AM · I think you would enjoy the Solos for Young Violinists books in general, if you don't know them. Lots of musically expressive pieces , different styles but plenty of emotive parts, and I find the short pieces so nice for filling in bits and pieces of technique that support the bigger solo works.
Also upvoting Seitz G major (op 35 I think is the intermediate-level one--There is a different one that's book 3 level and kinda boring imo!) And while it's a very different type of playing, the Handel sonata in book 6 is SUCH a great piece. I find it a definite contrast from Bach and Vivaldi--it is a different angle from anything you've played before in expressive technique.
You might also try the Grazyna Bacewicz Concertino. I find it around the level of the Vivaldi but musically super fun and a refreshing contrast. I don't know that it will do a lot new for you, though, in terms of your technique.
September 1, 2023, 7:07 AM · I agree with Paul's mention of "Souvenir de Sarasota".
If you google "Sequence of Violin Repertoire" you'll end up at Mimi Zweig's list, which comes from a Suzuki POV. And you'll find Dorothy Delay's list of Concerto progression.
September 7, 2023, 5:14 AM · I Stand corrected. I guess the seitz Concerto in G Minor is a better choice.
Edited: September 7, 2023, 1:45 PM · The next Suzuki books offer a pretty good progression, with La Folia, Vivaldi G minor and Bach A minor. And then you can supplement with Accolay, Kreisler pieces, Vitali Chaconne, Bartok Rumanian Folk Dances.
September 14, 2023, 7:49 PM · Bach A Minor; Seitz No. 1 D Major.

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