Leopold Auer Graded Course Copyright Status
There has been some discussion here about the availability of Leopold Auer's well-known Graded Course of Violin Playing (8 books).
My understanding is that these works are copyright for 1926 or 1927 by Carl Fischer which, according to the Library of Congress guidelines, means they might now be in the public domain.
A beginner student has asked me if these are available yet for downloads as PDFs. I have checked with IMSLP but did not find these works among the other Auer scores.
If these books are indeed out of copyright, does anyone have links to possible download sites or any information on their status?
That's strange. I thought I remembered seeing the Auer books on IMSLP at some point in the past. If you're not trying to buy them you could try the Maia Bang books off of IMSLP (besides the last one). She was a student of Auer and if I remember correctly he approved of them. I hear that they are pretty similar to the Auer books just more accessible to younger students.
Thanks very much for the replies. The posting was not about the quality of Auer's course but its availability. If anyone has any information about the copyright status of this work, please post that information to the list. If the books are in the public domain, then perhaps they can be uploaded in the future to IMSLP as PDF scores for those who might wish to use them. All the best. David
I bought volumes three and four of the Auer books at TMEA several years ago, and they are new-looking editions. I would be very surprised if they are out of copyright, given that the publisher (Carl Fischer) has clearly spent quite a bit of money on them recently. The copyright page says 1926, and then “copyright renewed.”
Indeed. An Auer feels like a lifetime.
I dip into these volumes as a ressource, not as a method.
I bought book 8 for my own use with a teacher I had and other than the 1 or 2 exercises I did from it I never touched the book again. Even as an undergrad student at the time, it was pretty boring for me as well which is the main reason I haven't bothered with the other volumes.
I have now posted a request for copyright information and possible PDF uploads of Auer's course at the IMSLP Forum. According to the Library of Congress guidelines, it appears that copyright renewal does not affect the original publication copyright status, only later versions of the work which have been substantially altered. Many of Auer's works are now available on IMSLP, including the original editions of works republished at a later date. I am not an expert on this issue, so I'll be interested in what the response is on the IMSLP Forum and here. Again, this posting is about the copyright status of this work, not about its usefulness. Best wishes. David
Because students may only need an exercise here or there or perhaps a section from one of the books. Young students usually don't have extra money to spend on scores or courses they are only going to use one part of and perhaps never use again. This is why sites like IMSLP make them available and why they are so popular. So, to return to the copyright issue: why not have the Auer books available in PDF, if they are in the public domain, and give students the choice of printing out what they need or buying full-sized scores from Carl Fischer? Thanks for your reply. David
My OP was prompted by a beginner student I know and my own experience of using Auer many years ago and also the need to buy scores and sheet music at that time. I am not a violin teacher. It is extremely important to make sure works are in fact out of copyright and in the public domain before making them available for download. All the best. David
i have the first 3 books (courtesy from an user from here), and all i can say is "these books are HAAAAARD" at least for a starter on the violin.
Copyright can be a messy issue, as the law has changed over time, and differ3nt countries have different laws.
As I mentioned, I have submitted Auer's course to the IMSLP Forum for consideration as a PDF upload if one of their members wants to scan the books. So far, the consensus there seems to be that the course is in the public domain, but I'll let them decide. Whatever its merits, I think it should be made available for download if it is indeed out of copyright. If anyone on this site has all or some of the books, they can contact IMSLP to see what the upload procedure is. All the best. David
so, David, any answer from IMSLP? i can upload the first 3 books if it's ok. i just don't know how to do it, but i will search if i know it's ok to do it.
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