Bouncing bow help
Looking for a little help fixing a bouncing bow problem that I thought I fixed, but came back. On downbows in the middle of the top third of the bow I get a slight skittering. I thought it might be old hair, but my other bow with new hair has the same issue. Maybe it's old rosin (5 years old?) Also I tried adjusting the shoulder rest to get a more flat instrument angle. That seemed to help somewhat, but seemed to move the point of bounce slightly closer to the tip.
Could it be my grip? Or rosin? Or my grip? Any suggestions? Thanks!
Can't offer general advice. I haven't had the problem for a long time.
The topic comes up frequently. You can find longer articles at the Blog archive.
Fantastic advice from Joel Quivey. In my opinion, he is absolutely correct. Thank you, Joel.
My guess is this: the part of the bow you're referencing (mid upper 3rd, or just near the tip) is where your bow grip has to change in order to accommodate your arm length running out.
@-Alexander S.--Thank you. In the past I was reluctant to post anything on the forum because I don't have the resume.
I'm betting it's a software problem.
It probably wouldn't hurt to try some son file and pay attention to both the bow hold and the weight of the arm, and see if you could loosen the grip a bit at the point that the shaking starts, or if you are holding some tension in your shoulder or holding up your elbow in some way.
I think Christian's suggestion is really great:
Great advice from Christian Lesniak also! I don't believe it is a bow problem. But the software problem suggestion had me in stitches.
I have deleted my post now. You may as well delete those three, lol!
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll give those a try. I don't think it is my technique, I played viola last night as well with no skittering on that bow.
playing viola at night is the best time because no one can recognize you:)
Ah. Hence the darker sound.
The heavier viola bow may make "the" difference. Slightly more tip weight on the violin bow might also help.
continued- Another possible cause of unwanted bow bounce is,-- shifting positions up, on a slur. That usually happens near the middle of the bow. For proper shifting we release the left hand and let the finger come off of the wood. Because the brain does not want to do two different things at the same time the right hand automatically releases and the bow takes off. Solution; this takes deliberate practice; make a crescendo during the shift and keep the bow hair tucked closer to the bridge. Don't worry about the possible audible slide.
I've literally never used a bow that "skittered" without an associated technical problem. And I've used plenty of $5 bows. So I am skeptical that the bow has anything to do with it.
pay attention to your right shoulder whenever you experience a danger of bow bouncing. especially relax the right shoulder area in these parts.
Neil Poulsen, what I'm saying is it's much, much more likely that the issue is his technique, and not his bow. But, since he won't post a video, it's all speculation.
I do not have the ingredients to give advice, but a couple of points which helped me:
We don't know anything about the OP's technique. No-one yet has mentioned simple RH index finger pressure. Videos on other forums routinely show inexperienced violinists applying no pressure at all.
Neil Poulsen said:
Buri, why would he do all that when he can just recamber his bow?
Follow the carpentry rule, "measure twice and cut once."
Lots of suggestions, but I think it is my bow. I tried a lot of things including trying someone else's bow and they all seem to work. I need a rehair anyway so I might get the camber checked as well and it seems that weather may have been part of the issue.
I'm curious how much hair you use?
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