How many fine tuners do you have? Do you prefer more/ less fine tuners? Does it affect the sound a lot (e string)?
My violin tailpiece has four built-in fine tuners, my viola has one fine tuner. That's not from any kind of preference; it's just how both instruments were when I got them, and I really don't care enough to change either of them.
It's personal preference, the effect on sound is controversial. My violin came with a tailpiece with four integrated fine tuners. I really really value my fine tuners, so I'm glad to have them. My viola came to me with geared pegs plus a fine tuner on the A string. I'm not a geared peg fangirl, my viola just came set up with them. I play both regularly. If I got a violin or viola with one fine tuner and standard pegs, I'd probably get the tailpiece exchanged for one with four fine tuners, since I'm much faster tuning with fine tuners.
I do not need fine tuners because I have gear pegs on my violin (PegHeds) and my viola (Wittner FineTune Pegs). However, on the violin, I still find it convenient to have the fine tuner on my E string. I'm definitely a cheerleader for gear pegs, I think they're absolutely wonderful. PegHeds are the best in terms of their aesthetic appearance; Wittner FineTune Pegs work the best. My daughter has Knilling Perfection Pegs in her violin and they're okay but they don't work as well as the Wittner.
One for the E-String as I have Perfection (geared) pegs. I still need that ultra-fine adjustment for the E-String G, D, and A are all easily tuned with the Perfection pegs.
What Andrew said. My violins have four fine tuners each.
One titanium hill style tuner on the violin. No fine tuners on the viola.
I have one fine tuner on the E.
I use 2 fine tuners; E & A. Tuning in the orchestra is faster and easier with that. Since all of my violins are low-budget, I don't fuss with those other acoustical factors.
I too like four built-in tuners for instant adjustments as the winds warm up or when brass intonation is different.
The less fine tuners you have, the better the quality of sound will be. I only have one fine tuner, for the E string.
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I have geared pegs (wittners) on two of my violins and my viola. Eventually I plan to get them installed on my teaching/outdoor violin. Both of the violins still have a fine tuner on the E string mostly for aesthetic, but I mostly use the peg. My viola has no fine tuners not even on the A string. Since the A string is steel core the gearded peg tunes it really precise to where I didn’t even need the fine tuner so I took it off. Obviously E strings are also steel unless you use gut, but sometimes the E is so close to being in tune it’s much quicker to just use the fine tuner.
I have four fine tuners on my viola and geared pegs on my violin (although I had two fine tuners on my violin for E and A before switching to geared pegs). I find/found the fine tuners a godsend for the viola, and also for my violin even after switching to geared pegs. Particularly with synthetic strings, the fine tuners make very small adjustments easy. I have not noticed that they make any difference to the sound quality.
Until I was in my late 60s (or thereabouts) I only used fine tuners on my E strings and after many decades had ended up with the little Hill tuners. However, beginning arthritis made peg tuning too difficult and I tried various tailpieces with 4 integral fine tuners. After many trials I ended up with Bois d'Harmonie tailpieces with CF tuners on my 4 violins, 3 cellos and one of my violas (the other has a Wittner tailpiece). The BdH weigh no more than the respective bare tailpieces and 'sound' the same.
Geared pegs. Kabosh. It wasn't meant to be easy! Where's the romance in twist, untwist (repeat), perfect, slip, damn, twist and repeat? [Actually, when they are holding and moving its really fast and most satisfying to the ear.]
Elise, most of the geared pegs come in a variety of diameters, so in a best-case scenario, no modification or reaming of the pegbox would be required. More often, a little reaming might be required to open the holes up to the next available peg size. But a little reaming is usually required to fit a new set of conventional pegs and get them to work properly, too.
Elise, in every violin with new installed Finetunes, where there were normal pegs before, i saw that it was necessary to ream the holes a little bit.
My current instrument came with both geared tuners and Wittner fine tuners-- so belt and suspenders:-)
I installed all the 9 sets of geared pegs myself in my own instruments as well as 5 others for family members. I had to ream all 57 peg holes (odd number because one of the violins was a 5 string - Chuck Herin of Pegheds sent me a free extra peg (I was a good customer).
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