Larsen Il Cannone strings
This is a continuance of a previous thread (LINK
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I put a full set of Larsen Il Cannone, regular medium-gauge, strings on my violin this morning. I would normally use a Warchal Amber E, but they weren't in stock at the shop.
My immediate impression is that they were clean and responsive but not very colorful. (I had a Tzigane G and D previously that were nicely rich on this violin.)
They are definitely changing with settling, adding a bit of complexity, but not as much as I'd like to hear. They've smoothed out much of the edge that my violin has under the ear, but I'm wondering if that's going to be at the cost of projection.
The rest of you folks who have been trying them, how are the strings evolving for you?
Have them on my violin for 4 days now. I can second your opinion. I am so far ok with the clarity of those strings, but I do not think, that they will develop into a colorful string. Also for me the first 3 hours of playing were very harsh sounding. But for a conclusion I haven't played them enough yet. Also I want to test the "solo" version before judging the strings
I have heard that the A for the "solo" set is not up to par, so maybe it would be nice to use the solo version with the regular A. Please do let me know how they come along.
The catching problem can happen to lower tension strings, esp if you have some side movement during changing.
@ Lydia @Simon -- it might help if we state what strings we are usually running as a point of reference. I keep a set of Dominants with an alternate E on my Burgess, and a full set of Vision Titanium Orchestra on my Ming Jiang Zhu (bench) violin.
I've yet to really settle on a string combination on this violin. Initially I had an all Evah Pirazzi Gold set -- that's what it came strung with. I also briefly tried a full set of Peter Infelds, with the platinum E -- not good on this violin. After that, I switched to Warchal's Amber E, and then tried:
I switch strings quite often lately. Usually I play lower tension strings. Peter Infelds were on my violin before I went to the Il Cannone
Lydia, how did you feel about the passione on your violin?
@ Lydia - it looks like you tried a lot of good strings. Anything you didn't like about the EP Golds that made you explore other options?
I really like the Passiones on this violin. They are very slightly better than the Brilliant Vintage in terms of complexity and warmth, but I'm not sure the difference is enough to warrant the hassle of less tuning stability. (The Passiones were not good on my other violin, though.)
@ Lydia -- I agree, Passiones are fantastic but a touch too unstable for what I need. I know what you mean with the term "overdriven" -- that is how EP and EP Gold sound on an instrument that speaks for itself well. Have you tried throwing a set of Dominant or Tonica on it to see what you get?
I haven't. I've never been all that keen on the Dominants sound ever since other strings showed up in the market, although my luthier suggests that Dominants would be just fine on this violin. I've tried Tonicas on two other violins in the past, and while I prefer them to Dominants, I didn't love them.
I think Dominants require a bit of messing around with E strings (and possibly setup) to get right. Maybe try the aforementioned Vision Ti Orchestras -- they are like a more colorful Dominant with more focus, stability, and can take more bow pressure.
I can't tell that yet. I want to give the Il Cannone a full life circle on my violin, before I draw a conclusion. But Peter Infelds are great strings, that is for sure!
I gave up on these strings. (My teacher described the sound as "flatline".) I put on a set of Passiones again, with the Amber E.
I will leave them on my backup violin for a while, but I probably won't buy them again for these instruments. Perhaps for someone else on a different violin, they will work beautifully.
Lydia, did you ever try a full set if Ambers?
I did not. I like the Brilliant Vintages a lot, so haven't experimented with the rest of their string line. This time they were out of stock at Shar, as well as two local shops I tried.
A bit off topic, but since the Ambers came up: I have tried the Amber set and like them a lot. Longer lasting than EP Gold and much better sounding than ordinary EP. My trial with EP Gold was far from the Amber in time but as far as I remember the Amber was softer to the touch and not quite as loud. Among the synthetic strings I have tried they are the closest to "gut sound". I still prefer wound gut, though. Oliv stiff G, Oliv silver D, Passione solo A and EP platinum E is my preferred combo at the moment. Expensive, sure, but they last me longer than the synthetics I have tried and after the initial stretching I have no problems with tuning stability.
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