Pirastro Perpetual Cadenza
Adalberto and Victor have already posted in other threads about these new strings; I thought I'd consolidate discussion by starting a new thread.
I've had these on for a few weeks now and have been enjoying them quite a bit! My instrument is quite sensitive to high tension strings, and previously the strings I enjoyed playing on the most were Dominant (normal and light gauges) and Eudoxa (same gauges), with aluminum D strings. When using new high tension synthetics like Rondo and Perpetual my violin can make an enormous sound but the effort involved is way too tiring (I'm speaking as an orchestral player). With Rondo I also had occasional issues with squealing when trying to play softly, although the sound overall was lovely. The normal Perpetual's saving grace was that it allowed me to confidently transition to soft dynamics and contact points without fear (something Eudoxas do for me as well).
The new Perpetual Cadenza strings keep this quality, while noticeably reducing the weight needed to play close to the bridge. The response is the best I've had with synthetic strings, allowing me to use all my contact points for different sound qualities without fear.
Sound wise, it is full sounding and round without being piercing (emphasis on high overtones) or hollow (balanced towards low tones). For comparison, I've found Passione to be more focused and piercing, and Dominant Pro to be more hollow sounding. Evah Pirazzi seemed piercing with more "noise" or texture to the sound, and Rondo was nicely balanced but with worse response.
Compared to Dominants, the response is noticeably smoother and the sound is stronger, while having a similar balance.
The tension of Eudoxas is still noticeably lower, although the A string is the only PC string that made me notice the higher tension. The sound of Eudoxa is much more textured/complex, although I do find the PC to be more textured than Passione, which I found to be very focused.
I really think that an aluminum D string would help approximate the sound of Eudoxa, but unfortunately Pirastro seems to have given up on them. I do find that PC silver D to be the best responding silver D on my instrument, however. Normally my instrument hates silver D strings, but the Perpetual Cadenza responds great. As an aside, I was excited by the marketing for the Dominant Pro silver D, which claimed to solve response issues. In practice I didn't find it better than older options. The PC silver D on the other hand does deliver.
In summary, I would recommend these strings to someone who desires a well balanced sound and wants better response/ less pressure. I think it would do well on very nice instruments that don't need artificial "boosts" to the sound and don't need too much weight to produce a robust sound. If your instrument lacks depth or has problems accepting the weight of your bow you should probably look at the higher tension options.
what, there's a special edition of the special edition now? How many times can you make the best string ever for a half-millenium-old instrument?
Cotton, if I'm not mistaken, they're just a lower tension version of the perpetuals, which was much needed in my opinion.
Johnson Strings will sell them-- today only, 20% off.
I'm based in Hong Kong, so I'm afraid I can't help you order one. The music shops here order directly from Pirastro (people here don't buy normally strings online) so once the release date was set I requested a couple sets from my favorite shop.
Still in my honeymoon period with the (Perpetual) Cadenza, but wow, they are impressive synthetics. It is not just power but their tone. Very addictive quality, lots of (perhaps expected) new string ring. Great response for a modern synthetic! Reminds me a bit of Eudoxa with a slight "digital edge", synthetic touch. Not as hollow as EP tend to be. Lots of "upper mids" which I miss in even good synthetics. Dominant are also fairly clear but then do not have as complex a tone like this. A champion of synthetics, IMHO.
It's always good to hear about new strings and people's experience with them. However, all of you out there should remember that different strings sound different on different instruments. So, do not assume for a minute that any of these strings will sound good on your instrument. Maybe, or maybe not.
"These are the strings my #1 violin has been waiting 50 years to wear!
One set coming to me-- now to figure out what to try it on. I'm not really needing replacements any time soon, and the one likely to need it next will be used in a concert. That already sounds great with Warchal Timbre. Perhaps I will swap out after the performance.
I have recently changed the bass bar on my violin and it's currently strung with the Ti's. The sound is balanced, absolutely round with quality. I have no problem with them, but I wonder if someone has had the same strings on their violin and changed to the PC's. What should I expect from this change?
If you love Ti, you love them and that is fine. I think Mr. Kruer could be of more help since he has likely used those strings, *and* the Cadenza. Though oer has he may have only used Pi, I cannot recall.
Hello Kypros, I did try TI for a bit, I thought they were nice balanced strings slightly on the bright side, which matched my violin well. Similar to Adalberto, although the TI tension is not that much higher, I did notice worse response, which to be honest I noticed with most Thomastik strings, with the exception of Dominants and Vision Titanium Orchestra.
I'm always up for trying a new brand of strings. I mean, what else is there to spend money on?
Totally agree with Tom Holzman's comment.
Pirastro released a light gauge synthetic violin string for the first time in 21 years. I think it's worthy of discussion.
Thank you for your responses. The regular high tension Perpetuals didn't suit the violin, but at the time it needed a new longer SP.
I'm curious about these strings, but I've been pretty satisfied with my Rondos, and my complaints about my violin at the moment are mostly related to adjustment, as it hasn't gotten a proper one since before the pandemic. I don't want to fool with strings again until the setup is done optimally.
They appear to be different from Rondos. Much less clean and open, with more attention paid to complexity. I just put on a set, and was quite initially worried by the A and D. It seemed that they were determined to copy an old kind of sound, much as some not-so-hot modern makers copy del Gesus, hoping that some treacly warmth will make people live without the purity and power of the original.
It seems like there might indeed be a lot more interest in these strings versus if Pirastro just called these 'light gauge.'
Assuming that's all they are. But why put two formulas under the same brand? Either way, some slightly confusing marketing.
I believe Pirastro indicated, in a Strad article, that the Cadenzas actually have a different core material composition.
I'm intrigued by these strings. I have been using Dominant Pro since they came out, and Dominant before that. But, I've ordered a set of the Perpetual Cadenza to try!