Is there any silicone pad for avoid the neck mark and hurts?
I tried everything, microfiber cloth, chin rest pads... but my neck still suffers. I had a big mark on my neck it hurts. I’m not sure if is because the wood of the chin rest or because too many hours with the violin.
Some people told me about a little silicone pad that you put between the chinrest and the tailpiece. I searched on internet and didnt found nothing, Only founded that “I think” David Garrett use the same. Can someone help me to find this product or recomend me something for this?
I assume you have tried and written off the Strad Pad? Don't really know of others. I've actually taken that off, now that I am using the taller Flesch rest. Sorry.
Two possible causes?
You say you have tried everything. I'll take that literally.
Its usually not the chinrest itself, its the metal clasps that are the most allergenic. It sounds like you have a very sensitive Nickel allergy. Your luthier can fit tungsten or steel clips onto the chinrest which would solve the problem. I have the same thing but use a leather chamois that I wrap over the (side-mount) chinrest and attach with an elastic band. It hangs down to cover the rib and clips. Also keeps the instrument nice and fresh!
Occam's razor: you're probably squeezing if you have bruises on your neck.
Chamois works very well - yes! even the stuff sold by auto-parts stores. There are also some cotton chinrest pads one can buy; check out SHAR or some other dealer.
Zephiran chloride is just a topical disinfectant. The thing about the violin hickey is that if you've got a sore one, then you have to let it completely heal before trying any of the improvements such as Strad Pads and so forth, otherwise it's not a fair test.
I found the strad pad irritating because its made of artificial fiber. The chamois is far more comfortable.
per NIH: "Benzalkonium chloride (BAC) is a widely used disinfectant/preservative, and respiratory exposure to this compound has been reported to be highly toxic." Maybe this is why it's hard to find...
Erin, the dose makes the poison. Benzalkonium chloride is safe for topical use at a concentration of 0.1%.
Gordon, I think the word you want is "vestigial." Like the hind limb bones of whales.
How would one reach and test the dilution at home?
Erin, It's readily available over the counter as any number of wound cleaning products by large makers such as Neosporin. It would be difficult to buy pure BC in small amounts.
It's on the label.
Erin, I don't know what "per NIH" you read but it's certainly taken out of context. In fact it mentions respiratory exposure of concentrated amounts. Again, the dose makes the poison.
Ann, here is the source, nothing was out of context: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6594094/
It is out of context in that they are studying inhalant exposure to it, where as currently discussed it is used topically , and most probably in ointment form, so not likely to be breathed in.
I know you said you'd tried everything, but you didn't mention flannel. I have successfully eliminated the mark on my neck by playing with a flannel cloth that I put between my violin and my neck. My original intention was just to protect the violin from my skin, but it had the happy side effect of eliminating the "violin hickey" that I had for years.
Cotton's thesis seems plausible to me. I doubt there are many violinists who couldn't stand to have a lighter contact with the instrument.
Rosemary, Yes, and the FDA would not allow an over the counter topical to contain a contact poison.
I don't understand - why are you all ignoring Nickle allergy?
The chinrest "pads" I have made and bought for the last 44 years always cover the chinrest metal hardware. I think they would take care of nickel-allergy problems.
"why are you all ignoring nickel allergy?"
"Because it's clear that Brian has tried various materials between his violin and his neck." I think if you read what he wrote he has tried a lot of things between the chinrest and his neck, not necessarily between the bracket and his neck. That's what those pads are - they stick onto the surface of the chinrest itself.
I think Elise has got it right: I know folks who must varnish metal buttons on the waist bands of their jeans. Nickel, chrome, and even silver can cause open wounds lasting for weeks. (Curiously, nickel & chrome
Silver is very rarely allergenic. The problem is that it is always alloyed with something else - and for cheap silver its nickel.
I got titanium CR hardware. It doesn't turn green.
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