Flesch Scales-3rds. Advice Needed
I am working on 3rds, and was wondering if people use Flesch's suggested fingerings or if they just shift 1-3, 1-3 (i.e. 1 and 3 playing the two notes in the 3rds over and over) and adjusting for the key so to make them major or minor 3rds.
You need 1-3 2-4 thirds for a lot of repertoire.
Sometimes Flesch makes them deliberately "difficult" or "inconsistent", though there is a method to his madness, and it is worth to learn them as-is. It is only difficult as you start-they will soon become second nature if you study them carefully. And as aforementioned, the point of thirds is the 1-3, 2-4 sequence-that's the *only* way to play them super fast and most efficiently. However, it is also a good exercise to play those scales 1-3 only, or 2-4 only, even if you would rarely do so on an actual piece (similar as practicing fingered octaves 1-3, and 2-4.)
no no no Dimitri, you should practice the given fingerings.
You need to practice 1-3 1-3 and 2-4 2-4 sequences as well, because there will be tons of repertoire in which you will repeat a pair of fingers for convenience of shifts and whatnot.
Thank you all! I’m going to do all three, actually, since it seems like a good set of tools to have in muscle memory.
I find that double-stop scales in thirds to be the most difficult. The 2-4 minor third is a strain for me, and therefore usually out of tune. There are so many combinations of minor and major thirds, both within a position and shifting; you need to be mentally aware of what you are doing. Depending on the key, 1-3 --> 1-3 --> 2-4 --> 0-2 is usually easier than the conventional 1-3 -->2-4 --> 1-3 . In real music I have never found a spot that needed the 2-4 -->2-4 shift. Hint: when shifting with thirds, focus on the finger that travels farther.
As Joel mentions, my most uncomfortable third is the minor third 2-4 (g natural-e natural) on the E and A strings. It's a tricky one to get any kind of vibrato on, but it's good to practice on exactly those tricky ones, and my ability to vibrate on it has improved with practice.
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