Stark Evah Pirazzi violin strings
Has anyone had experience with STARK evah pirazzi strings?
How do they compare with the normal medium gauge evahs?
Evahs are already high tension. You sure you want to go there?
I was thinking the same thing as Paul.
I have tried Obligato Stark. Playable for sure, but it takes work to start the tone, so you will want to press a bit more. And that experience will replicate itself even more for EP.
Do you have a particular reason you wish to try them? Is there something you want from the Evah medium that you are not getting?
Michael McGrath wrote:
My 1894 Benzinger violin and my 1927 EH Roth viola would both choke on Evah and Obligatto mittens when I pushed in orchestra. I firmly believe that it was the strings b/c Kaplan Amo's can pull much more out of both of those instruments
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I plan on getting Stark ones in a couple weeks; I'll let you know if you haven't already bought them!
As long as the op doesnt tell us why he wants this rather extreme solztion its a useless discussio.
Just the thought of stark Evah's make my LH hurt! hehe.
I tried them on a Tarisio violin once. They weren't the torture device that people may envision.
I'm sure they have a limited use case. If I was looking at a violin and it had stark Evah's on it, I'd wonder what they were trying to compensate for by setting it up with those strings.
I wouldn't wonder that, as maybe the player likes the combo or how they work for their instrument. EPs are good strings, though I wouldn't recommend Stark on a normal situation, as I stated some time earlier. Many professionals use medium EPs with heavy or "super heavy" steel Es on their "old Italians." Maybe their violins are bad and they have "something to hide", but I am more inclined to think they like what they hear, or at the very worst, are merely following a trend.
I know two guys that have used Evah Stark with Andrea Solo rosin for years because they want want volume and this combo certainly gives it to them. I have never tried their setup to comment on playability. I had Evan Medium once on my instrument and liked them but they are too expensive for me to buy every three months.
Adalberto - I would absolutely have doubts about buying a violin setup that way. Preferring that setup after the fact because you *think* it’s the best way to project is an entirely different scenario. More tension / Stark strings do not always mean more tone / louder.
Guitar makers, such as Taylor, responded to demand for different sound (metal strings and higher tension) by inventing different bracing patterns. Violin makers did not. More pressure will inevitably lead to top plate depression or even worse.
Rocky, almost all fine cellos are set up with steel strings that probably have far more tension than the gut strings from a century ago. Are all these cellos in serious danger?
Some more wondering - perhaps the Stark EPs are intended to be used on violins (fiddles?) built like tanks, the sort that might be used on stage in a pop music show, where loudness and brilliance are at a premium?
Andrew, I am not a cellist and have no idea if cello metal strings are more tense than gut. I do know that violin string tension has been rising in past 10 years. I will leave it up to you to take chances with your instrument.
While I agree many players may not need as much tension as they are often made to believe, I am not sure the Stark EPs will "destroy" a violin over time-though to be fair to Mr. Milankov and others, I also do not have evidence it's also "harmless." That said, the potential problem is that many violins do not really "need" this sort of tension, and even projection *may* suffer, among a few other drawbacks, so one just may as well just use mediums (or less, IMHO) for many synthetic string types.
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