First Concerto - what was yours?
At my lesson yesterday, my teacher said it's time to start work on a full concerto as a solo. It will be Rieding's Concerto in B Minor, all movements and we're using the IMSLP version. I do like this piece & we've been working on the 1st movement for a bit. Very happy about this, as I've been playing/practicing in isolation for the past 10 months it's a nice milestone and gives me something positive on which to focus.
I am curious how many of you remember your first full concerto, and what was it?
For me, Telemann concerto (viola). I started viola at age 13 and played this about 4 months later. I had played other non-string instruments previously, so I was able to advance rapidly.
Vivaldi A Minor. I wasn't a Suzuki kid, and I didn't do any Seitz. My teacher assigned me mostly salon pieces and arrangements for my early "repertoire" pieces.
Violin - Vivaldi A Minor
My first violin concerto was (probably) Bach Double, then Mozart 3, then Mozart 5, then Bach A minor, then Mendelssohn, then Beethoven. I no longer had a violin teacher so I played the music that was in the house.
Rieding b minor was my first.
Seitz G Major.
Catherine, like you, I am an adult returner. My first complete concerto was the Vivaldi G minor. It was the first piece my teacher assigned when I started lessons with him almost two years ago.
I was in the middle of the Seitz Concerto in D - Suzuki 4 (he uses Suz. for rep progression) - when my teacher gave me both the Rieding Concertino and 1st movement of Reiding Concerto in B Minor and we stepped away from Suzuki for now. I had thought we would return to Seitz after the 1st movement of the Concerto in B Minor, but I'm glad he decided to have me focus on the entire piece.
Did you mean with video? Because there's Perlman's recording, but audio only.
Yes, but the sound quality of his recording isn't as good. Not Perlman's fault, of course. I had forgotten about his recording when I posted the above comment.
I love the lyrical quality of the Rieding B minor.
Viotti 23 - a charming work by a charming composer, and far more manageable than his A minor (22nd concerto).
The Reiding concerto in b minor was my first. I felt very adult, as my teacher handed it to me at the end of my first workbook. ( I’m an almost geriatric re-beginner)
One of the gazillion Telemann concertos in G major :-)
Vivaldi A minor violin concerto. Before switching to viola I also learned the Vivaldi G minor and the Bach A minor, and the first movement of the Haydn G major. I don't think I really learned any of them well -- I was completely self-taught at the time. (Let's put it this way: 12 or 13 years later, having played viola exclusively and not opened my violin case for at least four years, I was able to go back to violin and sight-read them better than I had ever played them when I first learned them.)
Another "vote" for Vivaldi a-minor. Strictly speaking only movements 1 and 3; the second I played for myself without teacher-input. I discovered then that the slow movement is in fact the best of the three; especially if it is played with the original orchestration (no cello/bass, no harpsichord). The first is ok IMO but Vivaldi did often better; the last is more convincing if played fast enough (and now, that I have seen more Vivaldi--mostly sonatas--I am convinced that he meant it literally when he chose "presto" as the tempo marking).
Bach A minor
Vivaldi A Minor.....Surprised?
Because I am a Suzuki kid, I played all 3 mvts of Vivaldi A Minor - Nachez version in a youth concert. To this day, Vivaldi A Minor remains one of my favorite concerto to play, but I play a non-Nachez version these days.
Mendelssohn, - preceded by etudes, Handel Sonatas, and the Bach double cnct. which I don't count as a "real" concerto.
The Rieding is fine as a first "concerto", if you want to name it such. The Portnoff Nr.13 Concertino is about the same level and also very satisfying, if something would be out for an alternative.
Seitz G Major (#2), followed by Seitz D Major (#4), followed by Seitz G minor (#3). All three movements of all three.
Nuuska, curious why you put concerto in quotation marks for the R. Concerto in B Minor. Is it because there are only 3 rather than 4 movements? Just wondering. It's certainly the longest my teacher has had my tackle, and I like it.
Because it's easy :p
Haydn A Major.
Thanks David, I thought concertos usually had 4, my mistake :) Of course it's very easy for most everyone else here, for sure, and it will never be on a professional concert program. However it represents several milestones for me. My teacher also has me working on the Rieding Concertino in A Minor, that's...harder. Also fun, but more difficult (at my level).
Catherine, enjoy learning your concerto. I like listening to that piece, and I hope it is something you won't tire playing.
I am Ben, and I'm also enjoying hearing about other's experiences with thier first. Being stuck at home and working from home during this pandemic I try and focus on all the positive things I can.
Concertos usually have three, but the earliest ones typically had four (slow-fast-slow-fast). The convention changed around the turn of the 18th century.
As for Nuuska's quotation marks, it's probably because that Rieding concerto was composed expressly as a pedagogical piece -- the same is true of the ones by Seitz.
Andrew is right. Rieding, Seitz, Portnoff and others wrote these pieces explicitely as pedagogical pieces. These "Student concertos" are a genre on their own and were never meant for the concert hall, but for student studio recitals or summer camps and the like. The higher do I praise their composers, since they put a lot of effort into creating wonderful pieces of enjoyable and motivating music that's easily accessible right from the beginning, and sometimes (as in the case of Rieding) several concertos and concertinos in a graded repertoire for advancing skill levels.
Nuuska and Andrew - thanks for the explanation. I didn't think Nuuska was being a snob because it's easy :-) I was just perplexed by the quotations.
The Tchaikosvky, lol! I was a kid and my dad was so excited about me playing the violin he brought the concerto home. He thought it would be fun if I surprised my teacher and played it for her. I had only been playing a couple years, and was barely able to read music. I remember my first impression of it was "that's a whole bunch of ledger lines!" I slowly played only the notes I knew how to read, slaughtered it horribly, and never told my teacher. That probabably doesn't count as my first concerto, but makes for a fun story to tell.
I don't think I did one with my father before the Bach A minor, unless it was just the slow movement of the Tchaik for a demonstration at my primary school, which Miss Godfrey wold not let me play (It was mainly my musicianship that was not up to it). I then went on to the E major and Mozart 4(!), before he passed me on to his former teacher (Winifred Copperwheat): Vivaldi G-minor!
Rebecca that's a fun story!
Vivaldi A minor, followed by Accolay, then Mozart 5. This was all in pre-Suzuki era.
Mine was the Mozart A major and then the Bruch G minor, 45 to 50 years ago now, My hands don't work as well nowadays.
@Susan Agrawi, I started viola at 14yo but only played the Telemann at 16!
My study plan is directing me towards Vivaldi's Autumn, but I will probably buy a copy of the Rieding before then.
My first concerto was Mozart violin concerto in G major (Mozart 3).
Gordon - no need to buy the Rieding when it's free on IMSLP:
Vivaldi's Autumn is quite a jump from the Reiding B Minor.
Paul, this is the point of Gordon's joke.
I wasn't sure if it was a joke or not :-) I provided the download link to IMSLP just in case anyone wanted it - though I'm sure most of the members here are well past the Rieding...
A propos IMSLP: You will find there are also 3 "Schülerkonzerte" by Julius Röntgen (Dutch composer of all sorts of music). Looking at them I'd judge them to be a bit harder than Rieding or Seitz though they don't seem to exceed the third position.
Catherine, Whenever I complete working on a piece and it becomes part of my repertoire I buy an edition that suits me. There are several reasons to do this, the professional appearance and convenience of a bound edition, support of the publisher and music store among them.
Good point Ann, and I'm sure I'll do this once I get beyond student pieces :)
Catherine, I'm just a beginner but I buy the student pieces too like the Rieding B minor and Vivaldi G major. My neighbors like to hear them in my patio recitals like I gave last summer. There are also some great things that are not available elsewhere such as the works of George Perlman, who is a favorite of mine. He wrote some great stuff. Some of his pieces are out of print but an artist who has recorded his entire works kindly sent me pdf files that he had, even the piano parts.