Advice choosing cheap student violin
I would like some advice picking two violins from this online store and price range: https://www.thomann.de/pt/violino_e_violinos_acusticos.html?price-first=398&price-last=599&oa=pra&filter=true
A cheaper option and a more expensive one.
Any that stands out?
In my opinion you cannot expect a violin in this price range to be good. However, there might be some "outliers" superior to the average. You can only tell by playing each one before choosing.
Looking at your CV, this seems like a strange question.
@Andrew I know...
"...Violin made completely out of solid food"
David, we've had some issues with fake profiles posting ads about cheap violins under the guise of asking for advice, previously.
My apologies David, we do see posts with fake profiles linking to sites without any further engagement from the OP at times. Thanks for responding and correcting me.
If you have to shop online, please use a dedicated violin shop, who will properly set up the instruments.
This might not be practicable in your situation, but I’m sure there have been programs set up like this :
Dear David, as online shopping for a violin seems to be necessary for you and your student... I've bought my violin at Thomann as well. It's a Otto Jos. Klier, though way beyond your limit, now ca. 2400€, and I've visited their shop in person. But Klier is a real company/manufacturer, not just a distributor like Gewa, and so they would be risking their reputation if producing crap.
Boa tarde, David. I purchased a Hidersine Veracini online in 2017. Here is a thread about Hidersine student violins where I explain my experience with it:
I have a Gewa model 400.088.
Ohh I know the thing with fake profiles, we find them in most forums/networks. I get it.
The most important thing with "cheap" violins that you obtain via mail-order or on the internet is to take them to a competent luthier to get them properly set up.
David, I have the Veracini. The Piacenza is a bit cheaper than mine, but that's indeed the brand I was talking about. It's a pity they don't have the Veracini at Thomann - or the Venezia, which is a bit more expensive than mine, but didn't exist when I got my violin. Both are closer to the price range you mention and intended for intermediate players rather than beginners, as I think the Piacenza is.
"Three of my students already have a Stentor from that website, for more than a year, they're ok, as expected... sometimes the bridge feet may not be perfectly cut. I guess in this price range my best bet will be to tell them to buy the most expensive Stentor they can afford."
I would choose one of the two Götz violins, preferably the Audition model (Götz is a very reputable German maker of instruments and accessories) or the Gewa Maestro 6 at that price range. Thomann offers 30-day returns in case you are not satisfied. I once complained about the bow that came with my first violin and they sent me a new one without problems.
When I say 'luthier', I mean violin store that also deals online and employs luthiers and is recommended by my teacher. The problems come when you buy violins from a keyboard and drum shop!
I ordered two really cheap violins for my kids to start out on. They are a bit younger at 6 and 9. I got a pair of Cecelia CVN200's. A 1/2 and 1/4 size. I received two absolutely crappy violins and 4 worthless bows. I threw the bows out, and got some decent carbon fiber ones that work well enough. Years back, I used to build guitars, so I still have all the tools and a bit of knowledge in working on instruments. Smoothed out the pegs and added some lube so they hold well. Most of the tuning is done on fine tuners anyways, so I didn't spend too much time there. Adjusted the nut down, a little sound post adjustment, shaved down the bridge to the correct height and thickness, redid all the notches to get the strings in the right place, sanded down the bridge feet to fit and threw on a set of Prelude strings. I wish the fingerboard wasn't painted, but no biggie. Overall the violins now work as they should and don't sound all that bad. I was actually impressed at how much better they sound. Great for a beginning student.
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