What do teachers feel?
When a student butchers a work in a lesson?
I like to point out one or two things the student did very well, then I pick the thing that is most obviously in need of improvement. I think that's a common misconception of students- I am never angry or upset with a student who hasn't practiced.
If I can not find anything redeemable in what a student has played me, it would be a huge error on my part. If they did not practice consistently and they played poorly, that is a different story. At that point it is best to talk and possibly set different goals to meet their relative level of effort put in.
I wonder about that too.
It's not harmful to my ears to listen to beginning students' music (no need for quotes -- by definition beginners' music is still music). When a student butchers a piece I've asked them to practice I have to quickly make a judgement call about why it sounded the way it did: 1) did the student actually practice it or are they thinking I won't notice; 2) if I think the student actually practiced it, did they play it so poorly because they didn't actually pay attention when I thought they were; 3) did I explain things poorly; 4) did I expect too much. It's not always easy to find the right reason instantly, but eventually we get to the reason and then I work from there.
I'll ask my teacher, lol!
What do you mean with "butchers"? Is that good or bad?
"butchers" in the context of a performance is never good. LOL
When a student "Butchers" a lesson, I wonder why the student is taking my lessons.
When the student butchers the music, the teacher must butcher the student.
The Sweeney Todd School of violin playing?
We're not going to get to a future of sustainably raised protein by sitting on our hands, not butchering intransigent students!
@mary ellen goree
I would've been butchered the moment I came into this world.
Well now we have moved from Sweeney Todd over to Jonathan Swift’s modest proposal.
The thing about a student who has made a lot of mistakes in what they've played is that assuming they know the mistakes they've made is a false assumption. Sometimes they have no idea that they missed several accidentals, or that several bars had five beats instead of four, etc. And I mean no idea whatsoever.
Who is Todd Sweeney?
Who is Todd Sweeney?
LOL. Meat pies.
Seriously, my heart warms when I see the human kindness that lives in violin teachers. I was an organic chemist during my working life. When an experiment failed, especially one that had to be reproduced from someone else's work, I often felt frustrated and sometimes even angry (e.g. it failed because the original procedure featured an incorrect temperature).
I did have this one student, about 10 years old. Most likely coded, but undiagnosed, and the same with her uncle who always picked her up. They were never quite "fully present". She was enthusiastic in the lessons, but once they were done for the day it would be a gamble of where we would be he next week. She would butcher pieces that we had polished up during the class, other weeks it would be okay but not great.
I think most teachers (including myself) are pretty understanding when a student "butchers" a piece in a lesson, and will usually be able to figure out quickly why it happened. It's when the student consistently doesn't practice what they are capable of doing that I cringe when they come to lesson, because I wonder at that point if there's hope. It is very rare that I dread any student coming to the studio though, I usually look forward to each of them.
Allan said: "So what frustrates me as a teacher is seeing students who need help at home, but get next to no support. This child would probably see some success if there was not such a stigma to people who have learning difficulties. No routine at home, no communication."
Any difference when it's an adult student butchering the piece, versus an adorably cute, young one? As I kid, I was happy to arrogantly butcher anything. Now, when I notice myself butchering a piece, I feel ashamed. :(
Children are gross I wouldn’t want any... oh wait, I am a child.