3-octave scales and arpeggios
What fingering do you use for 3-octave major scales and arpeggios, specifically A, D, E, Eb, B, and F?
I start on 1st finger for A and B
I recommend writing out a scale on some staff paper and finding all the possible fingerings that you find useful. Not only will you find the best fingering for your hand, but maybe some alternatives too. You'll also notice a lot of scales can use the exact same fingering pattern, which will simplify life a lot.
There are many solutions, that in real music, not the scale book, will depend on the rhythm, bowing, and context.
I always play my major scales with the 3rd octave starting on 2.
I start all my 3 octaves starting on finger 1 (other than open C & G of course)
I've gotten used to the Flesch fingering.
I don't know the names of the systems. For scales I have one fingering for G, one for Ab and A and one, always starting on the 2nd finger, for Bb to F#, with small variations for major or minor. Except for G, they all end on the second finger on the E string, and the last octave is then 21212344.
I prefer the Barbara Barber fingerings in Scales for Advanced Violinists.
continued - my fingering for the 3rd octave on the E-string, when it is very high, the fourth finger doesn't reach the string when the 3rd finger is down ; 1-2-3-2-3-2-3-3.
For D-major, I start on open D, shift on E on the E-string, shift on high E on the E-string, shift on high A on the E-string, and then use 3-3 at the end.
You’re better off starting in third position on the G string, shifting once to fifth position on the A string, and then shifting again as needed on the E.
I agree with Mary Ellen, but I might use the latter part of Samwit's fingering on a fast run, depending on the starting note and the rhythm. I tend to prefer to shift up from a 3rd finger to a first finger, but in most cases I also want to shift with the beat.
I used to use the Flesch system for all my scales, but when I got to college my professor changed my fingerings for everything after C#/Db. His reasoning was that most of the time you probably wont be starting a scale passage with 2nd finger on the G string in most repertoire especially scales like E major, F# major, and the like. So I start D major with open D, and then Eb-F# in 1st position. Sometimes I do miss the Flesch system it was much easier.
Samwit if you don't have a scale book yet and you want a free one, you can download the Hrimaly from IMSLP. It's a simple one but not bad. It just doesn"t have scales on a single string and scales in double stops. For that you have to advance to Flesch (or other scale books mentioned above). Anyway you should definitely feel free to adapt fingerings as you see fit. A very important one is to shift from third finger to first finger on a half step. That is something very useful.
To be honest, it's great to master-or at least practice-all sort of scales and fingerings, including those that makes us uncomfortable. Undoubtedly, we will generally fall back to those we are more comfortable with during our practice and performance time, but the repertoire is so vast and diverse that one of those more "crazy" fingerings may make more sense in due time.
I happen to like the scale books by Elisabeth Gilels and Jascha Heifetz very much. I generally alternate between the two. I grew up with the Flesch scale book, but I stopped using it many years ago. The fingerings, in my opinion, are in some instances old fashioned and outdated. If I'm feeling lazy, I appease the scale gods by just running through the last exercise (No. 10) in the Hrimaly scale book. I use my own "21st century" fingerings, where technical logic and musicality take priority over ease and comfort.
About what Adalberto wrote: in the Flesch scale book edited by Rostal, Rostal writes in the introduction that he took the liberty to add additional suggested fingerings (they are printed in italics) either because he thinks they are better, more "modern" (compare Alexander's remark above), or, just to challenge the student! Interestingly, you have to experience yourself which of those are of the first kind, and which of the second :-)