Prima sonoro carbon fiber violins?
has anyone tried the prima sonoro violins? I purchased a prima sonoro carbon fiber violin that will be shipping the end of this month. I got it in a deal where the next 6 they sold would go for 1,200 dollars. On their website the violins go for 5,700 dollars. However im a bit wary this may be a marketing tactic as it seems they run this kind if deal on their violins and cellos about twice a year. Im suspicious that maybe the value is really around their sale price and maybe they can only really produce 12 of each or so a year and then run them on sale while listing them at 5700 to make it look like a steal. It would be a strange tactic but idk. How would they compare to other carbon fibers in the 5000 dollar range? Either way i needed a violin to bring camping so it will be nice to have. Im just wondering if i got a real good deal.
I do not get the PR photography in murky waters.
That’s about the same price as a Mezzoforte Evo; I saw the Primo Sonora’s the last time they ran that promotion about 3 months ago, but since there are no objective reviews of them and no sound samples that I could find, I passed on the “deal”. I doubt they’ve ever sold one for $5700 personally.
@Richard - that explains the murkiness of the water :) Being from Mediterranean I'd find something like this
@Kenneth - I'd be thrilled to hear a review when the violin arrives.
@Richard they posted a video on their website of it being played recently.
@Kenneth - I'd love to see your review too; I saw the sound sample on their website but no way to tell how processed it was, so an objective review would be great, and hope you love it too.
I bought a Mezzoforte violin as picnic/out side instrument. A big mistake. Not only was the sound disagreeable,
I know the top of the line Mezzo-Forte violin won the German Musical Instrument Award for violins about 5 years ago; the first time a non-traditional instrument won a major award. I'm not sure of any others though.
@Jeff, just curious, was it an Evo or Design Line? I know the Evo feels (and sounds) like they rushed it into production.
Richard, that's not a classical luthier's competition. It is a German trade show, featuring a competition with everything from German-made violins to to trumpets to clarinets competing.
@ David, fair point, it's not luthier specific. Nonetheless, its the first time any carbon fiber violin beat wood violins in an award. They may have won other awards / competitions also, Im not sure. I know a few professionals use their violins and the Carbon Klang ones also.
Luis and Clark cost about that. Not my first choice, but would probably deliver the goods to a different sort of customer.
Richard, which wooden violins did they beat? Did they beat some "factory" violins made from wood, or did they beat or rival what is produced by excellent, or even semi-good German makers?
Profit margins? This was a trade show.
@David, I don't know, all I know is they were chosen as the best violin at that show. They may or may not have won any other awards / competitions, and of course I wouldn't have a clue what the judging criteria was. I also know from experience that their Evo line is not that good, but the Design line is pretty decent for the price. I haven't played one of their top end instruments so I couldn't comment on them. For me, any carbon fiber violin would be a backup instrument though.
From the wording, it was chosen as best among all the violins at that particular show that year; it wasn't judged against trumpets or guitars or ukuleles, etc. Of course, that's of limited value without knowing what other violins were there that year. I remember those plastic trumpets too lol.
Remember plastic violins by Macaferri?
I live about 4 hours away from Munich, where Mezzoforte has a dealer.
David, I’m not sure it’s fair to compare the German Music Awards to a “local chili cookoff”. I certainly do agree that they aren’t in the same category as the VSA or Cremona competitions you mentioned though. Of course those competitions are really geared to the top 0.001% of instruments that most players couldn’t think of affording too.
The VSA accepts all entries, including violins made by amateurs; including those fashioned from carbon fiber, from coconuts, from balsa wood, and from paper mache. Typically, there are about 400 entries, from about 14 countries, with pricing all over the map. (I forgot to ask how much the maker of the coconut-body violin was asking.) :-)
I’ll defer to your experience in that , though the VSA competition rules seem to say otherwise:
Richard, I'll call the chairman of the competition committee to see if there has been a change in policy, or how that section is interpreted. My understanding has been that there has always been a requirement that the "essential" parts of the instrument be "hand-made", with the exception of things like pegs, fingerboards, and tailpieces, which can start from a near-finished commercial blank, or be used as is from a supplier.
Paraphrased from my conversation with the Competition Committee Chairman;
Yes that matches what I saw on the current list of rules; thanks for the clarification.. basically it seems the competition is now geared to exclude anything except wood, which is unfortunate.
It would be advisable to run the use of an unconventional material by the Competition Committee, since it is my understanding that the intent of the new rule is more to preserve traditional type hand-craftsmanship, than to specifically exclude unconventional materials. So it would depend on how the material is used and fashioned.