Hi all, I have recently dug up this Hopf labeled violin that, based on my research, seems to be legitimate. It resembles the "Hopf Meisterviolin um 1800" yet I am unsure. It was repaired in the 1980's, so bare in mind some non-frame features may be slightly different.
Here are some pictures of it:
Do you guys think it's legit?
Thanks very much for your help!
looks like a later mass produced model, less than 5% of Hopfs are actual Hopf family products
I agree with Lyndon; I’d guess late 1800s, factory made. However some of those were good violins, they had several quality levels. If it has an integral bass bar that’s a sure sign it’s one of the lower quality models though.
there were no violin factories in late 1800s Germany, they were made in villages by people working at home.
Lyndon, you definitely know a lot more about this than I do. Compared to something like the huge JTL factory, you’re right. I really should have said workshop instead; the Hopf family did have a number of workshops making instruments around that time, with a member of the Hopf family in residence.
all the instruments being produced in Markneukirchen and Klingenthal, good and bad, had integral bass bars, they didn't disappear till around 1900
Thank you guys very much, Lyndon and Richard, great to know
Your violin probably dates from the second half of the 1800s IMHO
Even if though it is inauthentic, so to speak, its still pretty cool to have a violin with that much history
Interesting discussion. It seems to me that an integral bass bar would be more difficult and time-consuming to produce. If true, what was the rationale for doing it? What happens to an integral bass bar if the top is regraded?
While I'm at it, and sorry if this is growing bothersome, can you guys tell if this is an authentic John Juzek?
These discussions are very fun
That looks like a real Juzek but one of the cheaper models worth only a few hundred maybe.
One of the student editions?
It's quite hard to differentiate the higher end ones and the lower end ones for me.
The high end ones are labeled Master Art, the cheaper ones are quite average and nothing special at all, just cheap mass produced Czech violins
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