Any of you remember the time you were still automatically whacking your 3rd finger down on the E string whenever you saw an A in 2nd position?
Is it an argument for not leaving it too long before teaching it?
Is it worse for students of Whistler, for whom 2nd position was almost an afterthought?
There are some marvelous earlier threads about second position, some still from the Buri period, that should keep you busy for a while!
I use second position a fair bit. When I was at my youth string orchestra, one of the things we played was Sibelius' Andante Festivo. At that point I essentially used it as a "second position study"
Whistler does not treat 2nd position as an afterthought— it is the very first topic, and covered quite extensively, in volume two. My students work through both books and end up with a thorough knowledge of second position.
My answer is similar to Mary Ellen's. My son is using second position extensively in suzuki book 3 (and some I think by book 2). He's doing some Whistler exercises in third position but that's not a reason to wait for second position. There are different reasons to play in a higher position - because a note is out of range of the lower position, or because it makes musical sense to use a higher position. I think the latter point should be encouraged by teachers at the earliest possible time.
Augustine said the second position is his favourite position. Useful indeed
My childhood teacher taught from the Whistler books. And in fact my second position was awful, but I don't think it's because of the Whistler books themselves. It think it's because my
When I took lessons between ages 4 and 12 the order of studying positions seemed to be 1, 3, 5 (etc.). The problem with this is that one becomes so accustomed to notes on the lines of the staff (and ledger lines) corresponding to fingers 1 and 3 that it can confuse sight reading in even-numbered positions.
I don't know Whistler, but my teacher is currently having me play both 2nd and 3rd positions in the same piece, it's getting smoother but it's been a challenge! Humoresque (Suzuki 3) - thankfully I like this little piece, someday would like to play the "normal" version (non-Suzuki).
The "real" Humoresque is in some vile key and it's full of double stops. Be careful what you pray for. :)
I vaguely recall elementary/middle school orchestra - beginner/easy stuff and therefore I amused myself by playing the school pieces in 2nd position. I don't know if that was my idea or if a teacher put me up to it.
There are a number of good books for studying violin second position. It is worth noting that second position is probably even more useful for violists. I certainly use it a lot when playing viola, and I am sure that those of us who play both would say that we use second a lot more with viola than violin.
I agree with Tom. I use 2nd a lot on the viola, mostly by my own decision (my teacher usually agrees). But as a result, I find myself using it on the violin more and more
Well, Sitt 21-5 are probably more than sufficient.
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