What happens after Viotti 22?
It looks like I' m obsessed by repertoire, but we just assigned me Viotti 22
I've played other Viottis(23&12),Kreutzer's 9th and 10th concertos and one Mozart concerto (n°3)
What do we generally play after?
I've think about these:
-Bruch n°1 (except the 3 mov)
-Saint-Saens n°3(all mov)
-Khachaturian (don't want to play it)
-Kabalevski (don't want to play it)
-Maybe Lalo 'SE(1st mov only)
-Maybe another Mozart
Is there anything I'm missing ?
Is my list wrong?
Do Bruch. It's the only way of determining whether you're at the Bruch Level.
Viotti 23? Chronologically speaking.
It looks like you asked this same question about 6 months ago, Guillermo.
Typically: DeBeriot 9 (if you didn't do it before Viotti 22, as they are not always taught in the same order), and then Kabelevsky, and maybe Conus, before Bruch. Kreisler's Praeludium and Allegro somewhere in there, as well, and often the Vitali Chaconne and the Wieniawski Legende.
I personally didn’t play Viotti 22, but have a friend who did. He played that, then Winter by Vivaldi, and the Bruch, then Mendelssohn. I personally did Mozart No. 3, Bruch, took a concerto break with the Devil’s Trill Sonata, and then jumped into Wieniawski No.2. Lalo is about the same level as Bruch, Saint Seans No.3 is much above both of them, about the same level as Wieniawski. Hope this helps!
Saint-Saens first concerto in A looks interesting. There is a nice looking copy available on IMSLP through the Classical Music Library of Thailand Project (2015).
I really love Viotti 22, delightful music!
For the Sinfonia Concertante, the violist absolutely has to be good if they don't intend to play it is in scordatura. The E-flat key is just as inconvenient for them as the violinist.
Lydia, I beg to differ.
Viotti 22 is tough music! It is also singular - 15 years after the Mozart concerti, 15 years before the Paganini concerti and Beethoven concerto...it's a tremendous bridge between musical generations...and, as a boon, the Ysaye cadenza is brilliant.
I agree with Andrew Sords that the V22 is plenty hard. I'm working on it now. By the way, here is a gorgeous recording of it. Better than Perlman by a mile, that's my opinion.
Lola Bobesco...indeed let's never forget this jewel of a violinist...
For answering Andrew Victor, I didn't put Mendelssohn or Beethoven(harder that Mendelssohn)because my teacher told me that people usually play Bruch ans Saint-Saens(n°3)
If you just got assigned Viotti 22, just practice that instead of worrying about Deberiot. Don't you have any etudes assigned?
Sorry, I didn't express myself very well:
DeBeriot No. 9 *is* an etude.
hi Guillermo, what are "columns"?
Schubert sonatina and Viotti 22? Definitely a mixed bag here.
For answering Jean Dubuisson, columns are a left hand exercice on one position on one string where you repeats these fingerings:
ah I see! 24 possibilities ;-)
What do columns do, exactly?
I think it's pretty much just Schradieck exercises (I imagine Sevcik is pretty similar) - Mechanical exercises for developing dexterity and facility.
Christian thats exactly what I thought when seeing his description
Hopefully the audience applauds!
I saw on YouTube that Benjamin Bielman performed Viotti 22
Paul, why shouldn't fiddlers play concerti with piano reductions? Heifetz, Kreisler, Rosand, Stern, and others did that more often than not...and it gives the Viotti 22 an airing on Ben's terms...rather than a conductor declining programming the work in favor of a standard.
Paul just checked the scathing excoriation...you *were* being cynical I hope?
I can't imagine the piano reduction of the orchestral part is a big step down for something like Viotti. It might even move people past their prejudice of the piece as a student concerto if they saw it more as a chamber work. It's a pretty nice piece.
I actually had a different experience progressing through concerti.
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