Accompanying apps (Cadenza etc.)
We are at a shelter-in-place order as of this weekend, so no more access to accompanists. :( I was wondering if people had used any of these accompanying apps and what they think. The two I saw that seemed to have decent violin repertoire were Cadenza and Accompany. The former seemed not to have concerto my son is working on (Shostakovich); the latter had one movement.
Are there any other good ones out there? Are any of these helpful/useful?
The violin will just project over the speakers, or if the speakers are loud enough, the opposite will happen. An accompanist needs to follow your son’s rubato and tempo, not the other way around.
We have been using Tomplay. Only Shostakovich is a duet with Piano
I LOVE Cadenza. See my previous posts on it. The thing that is most valuable for me about Cadenza is that it behaves much like an actual orchestra does. It picks up your tempo at entries very quickly and well. It adapts to other things, but it's possible to lose it the same way you'd lose a not-great orchestra (say, a youth symphony or community orchestra). It won't jump the way that a pianist would in order to stay with you. The same sorts of tempo-changing levers that will be clear to an orchestra work as you'd expect with Cadenza, and it does a good job of handling rubato. I've found it to be very valuable in my preparation of concertos; anything that Cadenza doesn't find followable won't work with a live orchestra either, even if it will be fine with a pianist.
@Lydia, but is the app just a recording of the accompaniment? Or is it a dynamic person or group that can adapt and be adapted to? I have never used these apps so...
Cadenza is dynamic. The other apps are not.
Thank you, Lydia, for the feedback! We will give that a try, at least for my younger one (on Mozart 3).
Yes backtrack. Adjustable tempo. Not sure dynamic
I'm don't think that Cadenza streams the accompaniment. I think it downloads it onto a cache on your device.
By the way, if you do find a Shostakovich 1 accompaniment, please let me know. I put learning it on pause while I prepped for my March-April blitz of sonata performances, and with that all cancelled, I'll be able to return to concerto prep.
@Lydia Accompany has the Burlesque but that is it. I haven't found anything else (yet). My son has learned 2nd mvmt and is working on 1st. I haven't found either.
We’ll try Cadenza out and see!
Cadenza is very good.
There isn't an MMO for the Shostakovich, unfortunately. By the way, one of the interesting bits with Cadenza is that many of its orchestral accompaniments use the MMO backing track.
Trying Cadenza. Someone commented about using earphones.
Liking this thread. Now I want to they Cadenza. Thanks!
@Matthew can you be more specific on how that works without headphones? We have never been able to get it to work without headphones. It seems like it makes it lag somehow.
I have a mini Bluetooth speaker, and I didn't manage to get that to work for me; I always assumed the difficulties were me hearing it. I contemplated hooking up my phone to a pair of full-sized standing speakers, but in the end, I've concluded that if I'm working on a concerto, I should practice at performance volume, and having headphones is essentially necessary in order to hear the orchestra with clarity.
We have not fully tested things out but,
To be clear I hooked up everything and it seemed to work.
Thanks Matthew! We will try it wired. My son has one that should work.
Damn it, Candenza is only for IOS. Even if there wasn't a quarantine, I don't know if anyone within many many kilometres has a Mac where I live.
I’m not in music but Apple pretty much dominates in the Visual arts.