got an offer for my violin
hello lovely folks.
to start, i'm very happy with my current violin that i purchased last year for 1300usd, its light, bright, easy to play, and have a massive sound, i chosen this after trying out at least 30 violins in the span of 3 months.
a number of my musical friends and teacher have tried it and the reviews are quite positive, one of them even offer to buy it off my hand for 200 bucks more than i paid for.
however so far, i have not tried another violin in the 3-5k that felt, or sound better than my current, including couple old mirecourts, old germans, new polish violins
i have enough saving to jump into the 5-6k range if i choose to sell this. but i feel something in that price range might be too professional for this hobby violinist.
what would you do if you're in my shoes, should i turn down her offer and keep this violin, or sell it while i can since violins in the 1k range don't exactly keep their values.
In your place, I would sell it and upgrade, but that's because a violin like that would be a hindrance at the level of performance I would need it for.
If I were in this position, I would sell an upgrade. I am a keen amateur violist, but intend to upgrade to something in the 3-5k range at some-point in the next year or so, because I need something that will keep up with me.
thanks for the replies thus far, i have start looking as i previously mentioned, i even brought my teacher with me and even he had a hard time finding something that would be considered an "upgrade" from my current.
I went through the trials of buying a violin last summer. My price range was around $4,000 - $4,500. I went to two violin stores, and tried roughly 30 violins. While many sounded great, none were grabbing me. Then the owner of a shop brought out a violin for $3,500. He said, "The kids come in here and want a pretty violin. They ignore the sound. Hence, they always pass over this one, but you might like it." It was - and is - around 90 years old, with markings on it from misuse, some of the wood has lost its shine, and didn't look as good as many of the others. So I gave it a try. Well, WOW! It may not look great, but the sound is amazing. I ended up buying the violin for $3,500 and a bow for $500. A couple of weeks later I wondered if I'd made the right decision. How could a rather unattractive violin sound so good? So I went back and tried the more expensive ones again. Well, they looked pretty, but didn't even come close to the sound of this instrument. I feel I made a wise choice. Now, with your violin, it sounds like you've already got a winner, so as tempting as a more expensive instrument may be, and as seductive as that siren song may be, let me give a word of caution. There is a saying, "Never quit your job until you've been hired for another." So, in relation to your violin, I wouldn't do anything until you find another violin that you think sounds better. Never rush into any of this, and believe the sound before you check out the price tag. Expensive doesn't always mean better.
If you like your current violin, then look into buying a better bow.
Follow Michael Kennedy's advice!!
Umm, keeping the violin that makes you sound the best is a no brainer, especially when the only positive outcome of selling it would be a measly 200 dollars. The only exception to this would be if you've recently played a violin you like better, and are fully prepared to pay the money to upgrade to it. But keep in mind the law of diminishing returns: it's very possible that the next worthy upgrade might cost you $5000 or more, especially if your current violin is a "best-in-class" type of situation (e.g. sounds better than other violins in its price range).
If you've saved enough for the 6k range, why would you sell your $1300 fiddle for a mere $200 more than you paid.? It seems like pittance since you spent so much time choosing it from so many violins. Buy a better violin if need/want one, and then you'll have a nice second violin.
Maybe your violin sounds big to you, close tou your year, but not as much at distance. Have you asked someone else to play it for you? As also the others? "bright, massive sound", classic description of a cheap violin close to the year.
thanks for all the sound advice everyone, greatly appreciated.
yeah, 4k should get you a nice fiddle....?
Even if you do find a better violin my advice is to keep the violin you currently have and love. If you do buy another violin, keep playing them both so that you can sound your best on both.
Make sure that someone you trust plays your instrument for you and any prospective replacements. What you hear under the ear may be deceiving. I remember going through a variant of this in high school. My generic century-old Czech "Strad" (nearly black varnish) was apparently blown away by a Hill Brothers fiddle worth 4 or 5x. The Hill was easier to play, also. Then my teacher suggested we switch places-- and from 50 feet away, they were indistinguishable.
@ A W. i wouldn't mind trading some projection for more warmth. this violin is very bright so anytime i'm looking for that warmth its definitely struggling. hence my thoughts of getting vision solo for my next string. i'm definitely not trading in since i know the shop will at max give me 2/3 of the value.
Maybe give Warchal Timbre a shot for strings. Not sure if they are at their best on cheaper fiddles, but they are extraordinarily good under some circumstances. While they project, they are warm as well as clear.
I didn't read all the responses, so maybe someone already said this. But if you're going to get a pittance for your current violin, and you like it, but you also are thinking about upgrading, then keep your violin AND get a new one. Two violins are better than one. You have something to play when one violin is in the shop or when one of your violin-playing friends or relatives pops in for a visit.
I wouldn't let the offer of a friend rush my search for a better violin, if indeed you want a different violin. IF I were you and I weren't ready before the friend's offer expires, I would see if I could borrow 1000-1500 from someone or put it on a credit card, and purchase a better violin before selling the old one. If yours is an excellent violin in the 1300-1500 category, you should be able to sell it RELATIVELY quickly to someone else.
Selling quickly and getting top dollar are two things that don't go together!!
I agree entirely with Lyndon. Selling a violin to get anywhere near what you paid for it, on your own, is very hard.
i agree, i know full well when i bought mine for 1300, if i want to sell it later im expecting at least 1/3 of the value off.. its just like buying a new car, you lose 10 grand just by driving off the dealership lot.
Sounds like you really like the violin you already have, so I'd keep it! Don't even think about how much you'd take for it, it's not for sale! As time goes by, you can acquire more instruments, each with a special personality that suits you at certain times and for certain pieces. I'm not very good yet but already I have 3 violins plus an electric, each has its time and place, none are for sale.
Going from a 1300.00 violin to a 6k violin may not be much of any on an upgrade. 6k will still generally get you a workshop violin, who’s sonic quality is a crap shoot. You need to spend 8k to 10k to get you into the single make world, and more consistent performance. I tried the same thing and was very disappointed in the offerings less than 8k
I think if your violin is very good for its $1300 price tag, and competes successfully against workshop violins in the $3k-ish range, you probably need to go up to at least $8k for it to really get a significant step up. Yes, starting at $5k-ish you get single-maker-made violins, but it's really a crapshoot. There will be obscure dead makers, contemporary makers who make very few violins (for instance, as a sideline to a primary job running a violin shop), apprentice makers, and sometimes, nicer-but-heavily-repaired violins. You might luck into another fabulous deal for the price, but you're going to again have to try dozens of instruments to get a lucky find -- and you might not get lucky at all.
Let's put a finer point on it, shall we? If your $1300 violin sounds like a $5000 violin, then
first and foremost, i would like to thank every single one of you for your comment on my predicament.
Kyle, I'd discourage you from pursuing an upgrade until you are dissatisfied by your current violin and have a clear idea of what it is that you want out of that upgrade. It's possible that many years could pass before that time, and you might never feel like you need an upgrade.
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