Hey guys! So, I was wondering if any of you have techniques in improving ones ability to read in the 3rd position. For example technique,tips, any repetoire or etudes by anyone like a composer,to aid in being able to read in 3rd position.Even any things any of you did to help you get used to reading it.Thanks.
I recommend practicing scales (3 octave), this will help with intonation in that position and higher.
Schradieck no. 10/X, Book 1
Book of simple tunes (Disney tunes, children's tunes, etc.) or hymnal. Play in 3rd position.
So, another vote for Schradieck. So, Schradieck was a composer of etudes, so this would seem to satisfy your request for etudes by someone like a composer.
The standard text is "Introducing the Positions" by Whistler, book 1.
It's been speculated that "Introducing the Positions" was actually written by Whistler's Mother.
So, Paul...feeling a little salty? ;-)
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I use the Whistler books mentioned above (Introducing the Positions, Vol 1 (3rd and 5th) and Vol 2 (2nd, 4th, 6th, and 7th). There’s no secret to developing fluency in higher positions; it is a question of repetition and experience.
Mental technique; learn 3rd position the same way you learned first pos., straight, no tricks. If you have real trouble sight-reading in other positions you may be too dependent on playing by finger numbers, instead of reading the notes. That is my one criticism of the Suzuki books. Eventually you will only need to write in finger numbers when there is a choice or change of position.
The Scottish Folk Fiddle Third Position Book by Christine Martin. Lots of Fun, really easy and really helpful.
joel, spot on.
Well, back to basics: My teacher at that point made me do an exercise without the violin. I'd read an etude and say out loud the name of the note and the finger, e.g. "A2, B3, C#4" etc.
How about solfege where you sing the fingerings instead of Do, Re, and Mi.
Do lots of scales and get to know where the notes are in third position. If you want to play a G and you're in first position, you should automatically know to use the second finger on the E string; in third position it should be just as automatic to use the 4th finger on the A string. Take a passage you're familiar with in first position and play it in third position. Go through the same process by which you learned the notes in first position. Now you have two sets of fingerings, and can switch from one to the other when you shift. Repeat for fifth position, second position, etc. Eventually these sets of fingerings will merge into a mental image of the neck in which you can find a note whatever position you're in.
I learned the notes by playing a 2 octave D mayor scale (in 3rd position).
I think my daughter learned to read 3rd position on Wohlhahrt etudes and Doflein book 3.
You are probably more advanced than I, but my teacher started introducing 3rd position quite early. For some time it was only in the context of the second ocative of certain scales, then specific measures he though appropriate in either a Suzuki (starting in Suzuki 1) or other piece. For the first time he assigned me an easy piece to play entirely in 3rd position (Long Ago). I suspect Perpetual Motion in 3rd isn't far away. We start Suzuki 3 next week.
You'll find that the third position is your best friend in all sorts of playing.