Upbow staccato & bouncing
I will certainly ask my teacher at my next lesson, but I'm trying to polish Minuet in G (with the Trio - end of Suzuki 2 - Beethoven) as much as I can for my next lesson. The only real problem I have with this little piece are those up-bow staccatos. My bow starts bouncing and I can't seem to keep the bow on the string - and it's only the up-bow staccato.
Any tips on how I can address this? I've tweaked my bow hair tension, bow angle, and bow pressure. A little better, but not much.
Edit- all of a sudden it's improving and I've no idea what's different. I record challenging phrases like this so I can better hear what I'm actually playing. Still an issue though, and I've read that up-bow staccato is challenging at first.
You're going to find that a lot of bowing techniques are like that -- you work on them steadily and then there is some breakthrough that you can't really ascribe to any particular tweak. Sautille is like that too. There's usually a balance between making it happen and letting it happen.
My suggestion, its, at your level, and finding out that i also have started with Suzuki, is to practice the Minuet bow pattern found in the 1, and 2 from Bach in the 1st Book; very steadily, the 1, 2-3 where is like: Down-Up-Up. Keep repeating this pattern, without tension, and later, go adding 1 more note so instead of Down-Up-Up, go Down-Up-Up-Up, further spliting the bow in equal parts, always with the same speed, like at quarter note 80bpm.
Also, i know many violinists will say that the staccato must be done stiffening the arm, that's what a lot of people told me when i did my own post here last year, but in the end, it depends of the people, the amount of notes to be played and the speed required. Hence, it's best to first learn tensionless, and if needed later, learn the stiff approach, because i'm 100% sure you know how to stress the arm, but you may not know how to relax your arm; if you can relax you can stress but viceversa its more hard, and in the end it's more easy for you.
"Stiffening the arm" only applies to
Thank you Paul and Santiago! I do think relaxing has something to do with this.
No comments on my up-bow staccato, somehow I managed to avoid the dreaded shaking bow. Not that there weren't other things to discuss but it went well enough to move onto the last piece in the book :)
Thanks Joel and I will experiment with that. I did notice that I had more problem with the up-bow staccato when I started relatively close to the frog.