I bought Zehetmair's Ysaye sonatas on a recommendation, but I don't think they do anything for me emotionally. Maybe I wasn't listening closely enough. What about you?
The emotion the Ysaye sonatas stir in me is FEAR
Andy, for fun, you might try No. 2. It's not that hard.
Lydia, Thanks I'll give it a try when I find the music. My hands are getting awfully old for the twists and turns of Ysaye!
The Ysaye sonatas are the antithesis of what an erstwhile contributor to this forum would call "catchy." My theory is that Ysaye sat down with his pen and asked himself, "What can I write that would be sort of like the Bach S&P but harder to play
Yuval Yaron at £65 I'll decline, thanks!
I just looked at no. 2 in IMSLP. Consumer warning: When Lydia says something is "not that hard" it is still very difficult!
Yuval Yaron - one of the most amazing violinists ever.
I've been enjoying the Kavakos recordings recently. No shortage of emotion in there, though he does seem to be doing his best Ned Flanders impression on the cover!
Yaron is amazing. Some of his set is on Youtube. Oscar Shumsky also recorded the set-- I don't have firm opinions on that vs all the others, though. Michael Rabin did record #3 & 4.
@Paul "What can I write that would be sort of like the Bach S&P but harder to play and harder to listen to?"
What I don't see on this thread is somebody advocating these sonatas--not maybe to play but to listen to. Any takers?
I like them! I have them by Ricci on LP.
I really like the Ysaye sonatas, and I find them to be rather exciting. I will likely never have the ability to play a single one of them, which makes me sad.
A recent peer-reviewed scientific study concluded that people who listen to the Ysaye sonatas fall into these categories:
Hahaha Paul. I think I saw a similar breakdown about Bartok on here a while back. I honest-to-God like Ysaye (and Bartok), AND I'd love to be able to play them - for the fun-challenge of it. But I'm not so unrealistic as to think that this would be possible at this stage of the game.
I've never got much pleasure from listening to (still less, attempting to play) virtuosic violin music. However I think Ilya Kaler's recording of the Ysaye sonatas is wonderful.
The Ysaye sonatas are brilliant, transcendent works. I love them to death. My favorite recording of them is Kaler's on Naxos (probably because that's the first recording of them I ever heard). There's a video on youtube somewhere of Augustin Hadelich playing Number 3 ("Ballade") that makes my jaw drop. Wait, here it is if I can make this work:
James, on average, about one out of 20 people will be in the 5%. LOL
I'm in the 5% (with a dose of the 10%..)
You can call me mister 5% too. But Paul isn't far wrong; even amongst violinists I don't know many who'd listen to this repertoire for enjoyment's sake. Some hardly ever listen to classical music at all unless they're playing it. Laurie, this might make for a revealing weekend vote...
It occurs to me self-identifying as someone in Paul's 5% is exactly what someone in his 10% of "bone-fide intellectuals" would say.
When I was looking at no. 2 to find out how difficult it is I listened to it while reading along. I found the first movement enjoyable, a parody of Bach's E-Major Preludio titled "obsession" (in a-minor, the dominant of which is E-Major). The second movement is titled "malinconia" which seems an obvious allusion to Beethoven op. 18/6 but the music did not reflect that. This was disappointing but otherwise I enjoyed the piece, in slow 6/8, though I did not feel it to be particularly melancholic. The following movements were all fine except for the last which overstays its welcome by a long stretch and seems dedicated only to violinistic trickery. I have listened to one or the other sonata before and the results were always in this sort of middling way, no hate and no love.
I always get kicked off of forums I have fun on.
James wrote, "It occurs to me self-identifying as someone in Paul's 5% is exactly what someone in his 10% of 'bone-fide intellectuals' would say."
The "10%" can be just snobs, but they can also be "curious", or "adventurous"!