JamUp Pro App and Electric Violin
Hi everyone! I am wondering if anyone out there has any experience using the JamUp Pro App with electric violin? I am classically trained, but enjoy a wide range of musical genres and recently received a Yamaha YEV 105 Electric Violin. I can do some basic things with this app, but having been classically trained, I really have no understanding of effects pedal boards and where effects go in the train or why. (Should have hung out more with my electric guitar friends when I was younger!) Jesús Florido demonstrates this app on YouTube:
I so appreciate any input you all might have. Thanks in advance!
EDIT: I just added a reply below to hopefully clarify my question a bit more.
Hi Paula, like you I have spent some time investigating effects pedals ("stomp boxes") for violin. Here is a little of what I learned.
I don't think I could improve on what Paul said. He covered all the bases with complete clarity. Personally, I find most effects to be uninteresting, apart from a bit of reverb and delay, and those can be gotten in a good acoustic amp without anything additional. The most important thing is eq, and electricviolinshop.com has a tutorial about using it that I'd recommend looking up. Without carefully applied eq electric violins sound awful. With eq they can sound beautiful on their own terms.
Mark .. link for that tutorial?
I've played around with Jam up Pro and the like. I think they are fine to experiment with at home but I would feel uncomfortable using something like that on stage. I also find it quite fiddly on a phone. For the beginner I would say a cheap multi-effects might be better. You do need an interface to plug into your phone/device and that may cost about the same as an entry level multi-effects.
Your Fishman loudbox has an input, at 5Mohms, that's optimized for your YEV's piezo pickup, so I think you should plug into that input first. Then put any effects you use in the amp's effects loop. I don't really know about "noise gate" or "filter," but I think that eq should be first in line on a pedal board. This is because one of the main functions of eq is to eliminate spurious sounds like bow change thump, high frequency shrillness, and pitches that amplify excessively, like C# on the A string or low frequencies generally do for me. You want to do that right out of the starting gate so you have a clean signal to start manipulating with any other effects you choose to use.
Following up on Mark's post:
Paul, and Paula, I just assumed that the Loudbox Mini had an effects loop because the Loudbox Artist (that I have) does. In fact the Artist has two effects loops, one for each input channel. After Paul's comment about the Mini "Charge" lacking that feature, I checked and the standard Mini does not. Sorry to say, but that's another reason why the Loudbox Artist is worth the upcharge. The first reason, and the one that swayed me to the Artist, is that the Mini lacks phantom power for condenser microphones. All the best clip-on mics require phantom power, and I always wondered why Fishman left that off on the Mini.
Well I guess now we know why the Mini is smaller and cheaper. :)
Mark and Paul, thank you so much! This is a lot of very useful information! Still learning terminology, so I may have to reread your comments a few times to digest it all, but you've both really given clear explanations for me.
Christian Howes ... wow, that's a pretty high-level recommendation.