Mozart no.3 violin concerto
I love this concerto and was wondering if anyone has played it. If so, how long did it take? Mainly focusing on the 1st mvt.
Edit: Aplogies in making the confusion, but I am aware that I shouldn't play it as I'm not at the level yet. It's just such a beautiful concerto and I wanted to ask the question to those who have played it. Sorry for the misunderstanding but thanks for the comparison, its really helpful! Or dare I say inSEITZful...Yes I do again apologise.
I have played it. The first movement takes about 5 minutes.
Mozart 3 and 5 were the first things I played after the Handel sonatas. I think I was 14. I no longer had a violin teacher although I did take up cello with lessons from a very accomplished professional cellist at that age and that continued my musical education as I continued to study and play both instruments.
I learned Mozart 3 (with Franko cadenza) after an array of intermediate repertoire that included the Handel Sonatas, Bach A minor, Haydn G major, some Viotti concertos, DeBeriot 9, and some Kreisler. It took me a few months, and it was followed by yet more intermediate repertoire.
Seitz to Mozart is quite a jump and not one I would recommend.
My older one played Mozart 3 very late (age 14 after also playing Mozart 4 and 5) and it took him about a month to learn the whole concerto, plus a little extra time to write cadenzas for all the movements. My youngest is going to learn it later this year -- for reference, she has basically finished Suzuki Books 1-7 and has already played Haydn concerto, Bach a minor, and is currently playing Accolay concerto. I would recommend at minimum learning Haydn first -- it is basically an easier version of the same style.
Yes ... my list should have included Haydn G Major and Accolay.
It’s not too hard technically but is harder musically than the Vivaldi or Seitz that you learnt.
I always get a little irritated when people say Mozart is on the easier side technically but "harder musically" because, often someone who is at the stage where they're considering doing their first Mozart concerto probably doesn't really know what that means in a practical sense.
It took me a couple weeks to get the first movement more or less under my fingers in tempo and in appropriate style, but not polished at all and definitely not memorized -- but I didn't try to play it until last year, 19 years into playing string instruments. (I picked up the viola after the Vivaldi A minor and switched almost completely to viola after the Bach double, so I worked on Mozart 3 only as an exercise in re-familiarizing myself with the violin.)
Before I got to Mozart I learned Haydn G major (all movements), Accolay, Bach E major (all movements), some Kreisler and Casadesus "Mozart", Adelaide concerto (again all movements).
The first movement of Mozart 3 is on the repertoire list for ABRSM diploma. It is relatively easy to play, but as others have said, to play it with the correct phrasing, and the correct deftness of bow, does take some time.
As many say, Mozart is easy to play when you are 10 and extremely hard when you are 20 and older. The more mature you are, the more nuance you find.
Mozart mentioned the concerto in his diary. I wonder if it was his favorite.
Thanks for the replies and I will do!
Careful with the allusion to the "Strassburg" concerto. There are a bunch of opinions as to which popular dance tune this refers to, and some alternatives would make the 4th concerto the guilty party. One author says
There are times I think I can play the Mozart concertos.
Yes, the literal technique for the Mozart concertos is less than that for the Tchaikovsky, Brahms, etc. Mozart tests for technical control of your musical intentions. There is a reason why even 1st-rate pro. orchestras often ask for a Mozart concerto at the opening round of an audition.
How long did it take me to learn?
Jiya - if you email me at firstname.lastname@example.org, I will send you a copy of the version that my teacher, Rene Benedetti, edited.
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