Anyone have a Bon Musica that just fit worse the more it was adjusted? No matter what I do it digs into my chest, and I've taken pliers to try and fix that, no joy. My teacher is willing to try and shorten the long adjustment screw on that side but I don't think we CAN shorten it enough without putting the body of my violin at risk from scratching. I suspect the part meant to rest on my body will still dig in/bruise.
I'm just curious if my experience is unusual. I may try the Wolf Secunda next, or just give up and stick with the Kun. My neck/shoulder isn't quite happy with the Kun...
Is that one of those SRs with no padding?
Good luck with the Wolf Secondo! It was my SR of choice for over 30 years.
Paul - it has padding, and it is adjustable in every possible way. I suspect it wasn't designed for someone of my build though I do know some women like it.
Catherine - are you talking about the screw that is on the treble/E side of the instrument? I am currently using a Bon Musica, and I have a mark on my collar bone from its contact with my skin. I've learned to live with it because when I adjust the shoulder rest to not do that, it is uncomfortable.
Pamela, it's the screw on the G/bass side, as well as the padded metal edge on that side. Leaves painful bruises. My fused neck likes a very low rest (high CR), and my jacked shoulder likes the stability of the hook though I DID adjust the hook so it isn't to the degree it came.
I had the same experience with the bon musica - the more I adjusted it, the less comfortable it became. I agree with Andrew that it confines the shoulder which I found ached after half an hour or so.
The more I adjusted the Bon Musica, the more it scratched off the varnish on my violin backplate. Now I use a Wolf. I feel the chinrest height is more important than the shoulder rest. It is a continuous battle to get a good fit! Next I will attempt to fit an Impressionist.
I use the Bon Musica - I like it very much despite the visual impression it was designed by a diesel mechanic. The both the advantage and the disadvantage is that it is very configurable. If it digs in, consider changing the angle between the plane of the violin back, and the plane of the curved shoulder rest. It does not need to be parallel to the vertical plane of the violin back. Mine is now tipped toward the back at the lower bout side, and away from the back at the upper side, and it fits very well. For what it's worth, I just acquired the new Performa rest, and what I miss is this feature - the plane of the rest can't be changed, and must be parallal to the vertical plane of the violin back.
If this verbal description is too clunky, I can post a photo later today.
Sadly Charles, it's more than that angle. It's also about the length of that screw on the G string side - it's much too long at it's shortest. Any shorter and I risk my varnish. So there are two points on that side causing me pain and bruising though some adjustments get it down to only one.
Much deep thought leads me to the conclusion that the length problem of the screw on the G string side could be solved by shortening its free end with a hacksaw or similar. There's always an engineering solution ;)
Hi Catherine, I have a few suggestions.
By the way, here's a comparison of Wolf theecondo vs Bon Musica by Red Desert Violin: https://www.reddesertviolin.com/comparing-wolf-forte-secundo-vs-bon-musica-violin-shoulder-rests/
If you're lo for a highly adjustable SR and don't depent on that "hook" the bonmusica provides, you might look into the Augustin / Viva La Musica models. The VivaFlex is reasonably priced alt a bit plasticky; if you don't mind investing a little bit more (but still not unreasonable), with the VLM Diamond you'll get thevmost beautiful SR in the market. I prefer the Diamond because I like it a bit stiffer.
I, too, found the Bonmusica not work fork for me. The "unfinished" nature of it had me worrying about scratching my instrument, and, although I did kind of like the "hook" feature, I found that I was unable to adjust the rest so that it wouldn't slip off the instrument. For a while I went back to the Kun I was using before, then eventually found the Korfker rest for my viola. Once it is adjusted, it is great - extremely light weight, and doesn't slip.
Good idea Christian, so simple that I hadn't thought of it! Surely I can figure this out without having to go to the lutheir - my shop takes at least solid week for any and everything (they are a large shop with a huge school rental program).
I had a Bon Musica which after I tried adjusting by bending, I wasn't able to get it to fit properly after that.
As an experimenting beginner, I've ended up with a small collection of shoulder rests (Bon Musica, Wolf, Kun, Mach One, Polypads, Acoustigrip etc...). Until recently I've had the most success with the Bon Musica and Wolf Secondo. I was able to get the Bon Musica to fit the best. However, with the hook over the back, whilst secure, was sort of too rigid. And yes, the metal parts were uncomfortably close to the underside of the violin. About 5mm in my case. It is also the heaviest, weighing in at a hefty 96g.
Glad the Korfeckr worked for you! I went with the VLM Diamond and I think it will work out fine. No more metal SRs after my Kun drew blood on the treble side...
interesting comment on the metal shoulder rest. I had a plastic comford shoulder rest, it wore out, so I splurged for the metal one that was supposed to sound better. It was heavy, and was a huge drag on the responsiveness of the violin.
I suspect men wouldn't have this particular problem, at least not many. The padding wore just enough on one of the treble corners that the edge could bite, and it did. My teacher was perplexed when I showed him my Kun, he has had his for 10 years and the little wear he has is in a quite different place and far less. I've had mine for 1 year...