String Quartet Page Turning
I am playing the 2nd violin part of the Grieg String Quartet in a quartet with friends.
In it, there are 6 pages, and the only places with opportunities to turn pages are pages 2 and 5. This means that I would typically need to lay out 4 pages. However, I am also holding an open G on page 5 for long enough for my left hand to turn the page. In this case, I wouldn't need to find a way to get 4 pages on my stand.
Is it okay for me to turn pages with my left hand while playing open strings?
Thanks in advance.
You do what you gotta do. :-)
Maybe consider investing a music tablet with a pedal to turn the page. Otherwise, just turn the page when you have to.
Nothing wrong with turning with the left hand. The last movement of the Kodaly Duo has few options for page turning. When I was preparing it for a doctoral recital, I practiced turning the page with my left hand. In fact, I used a metronome, gradually speeding it up so I could reach out quickly at the final tempo.
In such cases I have two "tricks" in addition to Lydia's proposal.
Thinking about this some more: With 6 pages* you need to turn pages at the bottom of p. 1, 3 & 5 (in an ideal world). Page 5 is already ok. This leaves you with the problem of p. 1 and 3. The bottom of p. 1 will be somewhere along the first movement. I don't think the movement will go beyond p. 3. So you photocopy p. 1 and line up 3 pages for the first movement. On pages 2 - 4 there will the the two middle movements (plus possibly sections of the first and last). You should be able to line up no more than 3 pages for each individual movement. All you have to do is rearrange your photocopies between movements. As far as I know none of the movements are attacca.
Are you talking about the second - unfinished - Grieg quartet? I played the first quartet with my quartet this summer and it is significantly more than 6 pages. I remember that there were some page turning issues for both second violin and viola. We solved most of it with photocopies but in one place I who was playing first violin turned the page for the second violin!
If you can turn with the left hand __ fine!
Hello everyone! Thanks for the advice. I need to clarify some things:
Andrew, referring to the Peters edition which is the one on IMSLP for the parts. With some practice, isn't it feasible to turn page 3 during the full-measure rest you have at the end? Yes I know the tempo is very fast, but still. Because then it all seems straightforward? Turn page 1 where you have a grand pause at the end, so that pages 2 and 3 are now both open before you. Then turn page 3 as just discussed, so that pages 4 and 5 are both open before you. Turn page 5 should also be feasible you have more than 1 1/2 measures rest at the end of that page. This gets you to the final page 6. If you get the actual Peters edition you already have it nicely in a booklet like that, otherwise you can tape the pages together in booklet form.
I don't like to rely on VS page-turns ("volti subito," which translates to "very speedy") in chamber playing. Orchestra? Sure. But not a quartet. Sometimes, though, you do not have a lot of good options.
I would object to that suggestion - turning page in the grand pause will spoil the magic. You have that outburst before the G.P. and PP tranquillo after. There should be dead silent in that G.P. All 3 top part have page turn at that point, but it is easily solved by having a photocopy of the top few lines of the second page on the left side of the stand. All 3 parts have suitable rests that allow the to turn after a few lines.
Very good idea to put a copy of page 2 on the left of page 1. So, your problem has been completely solved now, Andrew?
A violinist at a summer music festival solved this by stacking pages. That's right: for a 6 page piece, try 2 rows of 3 columns, reading 1-2-3/4-5-6. I have no idea if this actually works or not, but he didn't turn any pages. Good luck!
Albrecht, this thread resurfaced so I wanted to thank you for the post-it suggestion. We were recording an audition last week, my daughter wasn't comfortably making the turn on time in a Beethoven sonata, and the post-it fixed her right up.