new violin sounds tinny
Hello, it's my first post here. I've been learning the violin by myself for almost a year now, starting with a budget student violin, one of those $70 types. I've since gotten a Gliga Gems 1, and immediately the tinni-ness of the sound it produces struck me. Not sure if something is wrong or if i should immediately change the stock steel strings, but i'm very sure my budget violin hardly sounded this bad brand new. Its sound production in contrast is much more expansive and have some warmth, but the Gems 1 just sounds metallic. No faults were pointed out when i brought it to a luthier, but it seems that the common problems are an improperly placed soundpost, overly-thick bridge or something to do with the fingerboard. I get the impression somehow that it may have to do with the sides of the notches contacting the strings in question, but i've no experience at all with this. APparently the strings should rise above the notch for about 2/3 of their diameters, which is true in my case. Could anyone render advice?
metal strings sound tinny
An upgrade in strings can help the sound of new violins. You could give dominants a try, I’ve found they often help with the sound of my students whom have instruments at a similar price bracket to yours.
If you've got a $70 that
Another thing that might cause a tinny sound is improper placement of the bridge and/or the sound post. Take the violin to a luthier and have him/her make sure it's set up properly. They will also be able to check whether the notches in the bridge are too deep or not.
Yes, immediately change the stock steel strings.
You say you took the instrument to a Luthier and he pointed out no faults but then your asking questions about what could be the issue. Sounds like you need to find a new Luthier :)
haha romanian strings but come with 100% more steel then, because the ones on the $70 one sound better and it's because of that that i've put off getting decent replacement strings like the ones suggested, but now i guess i'll just have to! I'll do just that then and hope i'll have good news to report back! The problem with the nut height is something else i've noticed too, guess i shouldn't be too surprised when my next and more attentive luthier passes remarks about the rest of the violin. Thanks for the quick responses folks, greatly appreciated! Now, on to the next step!
Tin strings sound tinny. Steel strings sound steely. Like Steely Dan.
The stock strings on the Gligas are their biggest weakness. Replace them with Tonicas and you'll notice a tremendous difference.
Seconding Matthew aboout gliga set up. I've bought a few gliga secondhand for my students, and it's very apparent which have been well set up and which haven't. Most are sold as they arrive, which is not yet a good violin. It's like the differences between an unedited self published oil and an award winner.
Putting new strings on a $70 violin is a waste of money.
I don't know Scott. $40 strings on a $70 violin might make it sound as good as, say, a $130 violin, in which case you've profited $20.
Scott Cole the strings are for the new gliga that was purchased. Not the $70 instrument.
Sometimes I want these super cheap violins to be illegal; a fraudulent product. A proper set-up costs $200 or more, and it still isn't worth that much. Young beginners with these violins get frustrated and drop out. Older beginners can put up with them about one year. A one-time purchase of a warmer sounding set of strings might be worth a try. Besides those already mentioned there is Corelli Crystal, and for steel strings, the NS-Electric version of the D'adarrio Helicore.
Joel, a few thoughts about making cheap violins illegal:
Joel; A beginning player has to start somewhere and unfortunately most can't afford to spend $2000 to $5000 on a hobby or even $50 sometimes. But you need some joy in your life and if it's going to be playing an instrument your going to spend whatever you can to do it. You say young students get frustrated and drop out. I don't think that would be a cheap violin issue.
Yes, matthew, it is -
sydney classical community sounds stuck up! at least here in nyc i have met folks from all walk of life who knows bach when they hear it. hell the guys who works at my building even let me play at the lobby while waiting.
Well, I wouldn't actually advocate making those VSOs illegal; there will be trouble enough when OSHA discovers that musicians do repetitive motions. I think every instrument has some bottom line of quality and utility. I once had a trumpet whose valves did not work at all. When I bought 2 sets of Scottish bagpipes (!) for my children I learned that the Pakistani pipes were unplayable junk. A good choice for any beginners parents would be a rent-to-own instrument from a decent music store or one of the mail-order companies. My first violin had faulty measurements and set-up. Fortunately, my youth orchestra loaned me something decent at my second year of study.
Did anyone read the OP? The VSO was the PREVIOUS violin, not the one with the tinny sound.
I would recommend trying lots of violins prior to a purchase. Sure, this will not be easy in remote location, but I still recommend it.