2-4 minor third - does it get easier with practice?
I'm starting practice scale in thirds and I run into a big problem with 2-4 minor third in lower position. My pinky is disproportionally small and it curves inwards more than normal due to an injury. So when I play minor third, either the 4 or the 2 get flat, and I have to stretch really hard to get both intune, which means lots of tension and smooth transition from 1-3 to 2-4 is almost impossible. My teacher has long and skinny hands so I dont think she can help much.
Which solution u think I should do?
1. Keep practicing, fingers will be able to stretch easier with practice.
2. Do a 1-4 minor third instead. This one is unconventional but it kinda works for me to play up the scale
3. Looking into 7/8 violin
Thank you. I can take a pic of my hand while doing minor third as a reference if needed
A bit more context: I'm at beginner-intermediate stage so it will be a year or two before I play pieces with lots of thirds. But my teacher wants to practice scale doublestop early. Now I do double stop scale only 10 mins a day
Take it slow. Yes your hand will adapt to the particular stretch that it needs to do there. You MUST learn how to relax your hand when you play thirds or you will just be fighting yourself. That's hard so be patient.
Daniel, a minor third 4-2 in first position *is* difficult. Just keep practicing. However, practice in the correct way. Place the 4 finger first, nicely soft and rounded. Stretch back with the second finger trying to preserve the soft shape of 4 as well as possible. Your hand needs to trained to become soft and flexible. Then on the other hand you say that your hand was injured once. So of course there I cannot give you sound advice and it is possible that indeed you have to do something special. If you could post a photo of you doing the 4-2 thing as well as possible as described above, that could be informative for the more experienced teachers on this forum. Finally it is bizarre to say that your teacher cannot help you only because *she* has long fingers. It is her job to teach you, not to play those minor thirds herself!
I'll bet the teacher didn't have long fingers when she started playing thirds.
One can start to spread the spacing of the hand by practicing the harmonic minor scales in all keys. That requires a minor third between all three combinations of adjacent fingers. Later - do octaves with 1--3 instead of 1-4.
Everything gets easier with practice!
"Everything gets easier with practice!"
Actually no, not everything gets easier. Fingers don't grow longer with practice. Minor thirds with 2,4 are hard and I for one try to find a way to play them 1,3 rather than 2,4 if at all possible.
Thanks for everyone's replies.
Yes it's not too uncommon. And usually you cannot shift so that you can hit it with 3-1. There is risk in such a shift.
I have a short pinky and I play viola, so...
Daniel make sure not to push your wrist away from the neck, but, on the contrary, initially, allow it to ease in just a tiny bit towards the neck, if only to make sure your wrist remains relaxed. Also, like you are reporting, it is fine to search and experiment a bit for the ideal location of the elbow.
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