Violin capacity for different grades
Why are there violins that are categorised as for different “grades”? It makes it very confusing.. Say for this one it says it is capable up to 7 or 8 https://www.violins.com.au/collections/instruments/products/violin-johann-stauffer-500s-4-4
Does anyone have any experience regards with European instruments?
Or should I get a german violin which is bit more expensive https://www.violins.com.au/products/violin-otto-jos-klier-maestro-3-maestro-series?_pos=10&_sid=2ff41d230&_ss=r
For the first violin, the website says "In terms of AMEB or Trinity levels, we believe it is most suitable for advancing players up to a grade 7 or 8". It's quite straightforward actually, they are saying that this instrument can handle technical, tonal requirements of a grade 7 and 8 piece (Beethoven Romance in F, Kreisler Praeludium and Allegro, etc.).
Where do you live? If you live in or close to Sydney, it would make sense to go to the shop /s and physically try them. Poring over a website like that could drive you nuts.
Not sure of the differences with the European violin or german one?
'the website says "In terms of AMEB or Trinity levels, we believe it is most suitable for advancing players up to a grade 7 or 8". It's quite straightforward actually,'
Have you watched their videos that compare violins in different ranges? and whitehorse music (in melbourne) as well? If not check YouTube.
Oh, and about the "suitable for grade..." comments: don't you're buying from them, don'the idea is not to get a grade 7/8 instrument if you're a beginner (forgive me if you're not, or you're an adult who'll stick with it non matter what) - it will be harder to play.
Ok, but I can't agree that having fewer overtones makes it easier to play in tune...
Adrian, fewer overtones make it easier to LEARN to play in tune. Also it makes slightly off-key intonation a little less painful for the innocent bystanders. ;)
Not hearing overtones so you don't have to play perfectly in tune does not help you to learn to play in tune!!
I find the tangential overtone discussion interesting. Long story: I came from an instrument where the overtones where nigh-on impossible to hear outside of the open string references GDAE, and the instrument would howl (NOT wolf) when close to in-tune, but when in tune it would refuse to resonate. It was a strange instrument, that's for sure. I literally had no idea that a B natural could sound so amazing, because the instrument I came from would not ring on a Bn (for example), and would barely ring in the GDAE range. Imagine my shock when I was trialing instruments that allowed me to hear (and feel) correct intonation! I spent YEARS thinking that I could not play in tune, that I was a terrible player, and so on - turns out, it really was my instrument.
I'm in the "it's straightforward" school of thought. IF you are currently, or will soon be, at the level of AMEB/ABRSM grades 7-8 then this is the kind of violin they think you should be buying. Cheaper instruments won't have the tone or middle-position response you need for that level of playing, more expensive ones will have potential that you aren't capable of exploiting so you might as well save your money. It's in the price bracket I'd expect, as well.
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