Gut strings and fine tuners

July 26, 2019, 8:34 PM · Hi guys,

I was looking through some posts about using gut strings with fine tuners. From what I've read, people say it's not worth it because it's too big of a stretch, but people say it with synthetic core, too.

Would it damage the gut string if I just leave a fine tuner on the A or try to tune with it, or would it just not be very useful?

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July 26, 2019, 8:47 PM · It wouldn't damage the string, but it wouldn't be very useful. You could crank the tuner all the way down and not alter the pitch significantly.

Edited: July 27, 2019, 7:30 PM · If you use a micrometer tailpiece, such as a Wittner, it is possible to have wound gut G and D in combination with steel A and E (the "Russian" setup). I've successfully done this with Eudoxa G and D. I find that the loop knot at the end of these wound gut strings fits comfortably into the recess in the tuner where the ball end of a string would usually go. I tune the G and D from the pegs, as usual with gut, but of course use the fine tuners for the steel A and E. I've never tried an Eudoxa A with a tailpiece tuner, but I would expect it to behave in the same way as the D and G, and because of the higher tension of the A fine tuning with the tuner would probably be successful.

Don't even think about using a gut E with a micrometer tuner. Even if you could get it to work without the knot popping out from the tuner every five minutes then the life of an already naturally short-life gut E will be even more reduced.

Perhaps others here could advise on the success or otherwise of geared peg box tuners with gut strings.

July 27, 2019, 8:05 PM · I wouldn’t use fine tuners for wound gut, and definitely no to fine tuners when using plain (unwound) gut.
July 27, 2019, 9:54 PM · Mechanical pegs and gut strings go together like peas in a pod.
July 27, 2019, 10:15 PM · rubbish!!
Edited: July 27, 2019, 10:22 PM · I played at an orchestral concert today where it was hot and my hands were sweaty. My G string went a whole semitone flat right during the fast piece that happens to be in G major, because of my perspiration. You think I could have fixed it during my one bar of rest with a traditional wooden peg? Fat chance!

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