Rondo D strings
Anyone having problems with Rondo D strings breaking?
No, and we go through a couple dozen sets a month.
I'm curious what the playing-life of these strings are expected to be.
I am finding that they last a relatively long time. In my main axe, I am on their 4th month— admittedly not with fantastic amounts of playing. But they don’t fall off the table like EPs, and fade more slowly than Dominants. I don’t like the E, but the rest are very good.
@Lydia: How would you compare Rondo with Dominant, Warchal Timber or Amber?
Good stuff! I just bought a set a few days ago and am waiting for them to arrive!
Interesting description Lydia! Right now I'm weighing the difference between Warchal Amber and PI Red, your description has me curious to hear your response to Kevin's question.
Jamie, where did you order from? To my knowledge they are not sold online.
Some people have told me that the G is the first string to go bad, but by that time it has been so long that they feel guilty and change them all.
Thanks Lydia, you told me what I needed to know. It will be a bit before I'm ready for my teacher's string orchestra. It will likely be Warchoal strings - torn between trying Amber's or Brilliant - when I do pull the trigger (and Warchoal gives a heavy discount for that first order to sweeten the deal). Have read mixed reviews on Infeld Reds, many saying what you did, and I have Dominants + Piastro Gold E already.
Hi everyone! Here is the link to order a set. They are from Connolly string!
Rondo strings are wonderful, and they last a very long time. I get over double the lifespan on a set versus things like Evah Pirazzi.
Thanks Lydia, that company has so many string offerings that I get their names confused. Curious about the PIs, but not at my level. I've read the same thing on the Brilliant Vintage. I'm curious about both the Avantegard and Russian A, but I want to try one of their full sets before starting to mix things up. I want to see how my violin responds to something other than Dominants.
Talk about a first-world problem.
Gene, that's good to know. EPGs have lasted about 3 to 4 months for me, but I suspect that's the point where they annoy my teacher so much that I feel obliged to change them, as opposed to when the sound really drops off a cliff, which is probably closer to 2 months. I've had better luck with Passiones going 6 months sounding okay even though optimal is probably just 3 months. Warchals I've been able to keep around 8+ months, and the steel strings often last through two sets of synthetics, so close to a year.
Lydia, which tension of the Amber E do you use? If you've tried both, what are the differences? Thanks
I've only used the medium-gauge E. Heavy E strings don't work well on my violin; they choke the sound. (My previous violin did well with a Jarger Forte E.) My current violin is pretty prone to whistling. The Amber E never whistles unless I do something really incorrect with the bow.
Does anybody know the differences between the Rondo strings and PI strings in terms of warmth/brightness and playing response? I'm thinking of making the switch back to synthetics and PI's were very nice but slightly one dimensional and high powered compared to, say, Larsen Tziganes. Also are Rondo's pretty high-tension or on the lower side? Thanks
For lack of a better description, EPG starts to sound very "crunchy" after about 5-6 weeks for me (on the instrument average ~4 hours a day), and by that point it's darned near impossible to play pianissimo tone color near the fingerboard. I will admit that the first week or so with them is absolutely thrilling though. :)
For me the EPGs were really good on the D and A strings. The e was so so, but the G choked really bad up in high positions. My guess was that the G string was too high tension for my violin, so I tried to see if there was a lighter gauge for the set, but they only come in the one. So I first tried Tonica and they worked but the sound wasn't as warm as I wanted so then I tried Dominants. They were better but still not quite there. To me they were just slightly more complex than the tonica which made them seem a bit warmer. Finally I tried the Warchal Ambers and now I couldn't be happier.
According to Thomastik's catalog, PI and Rondo are at similar tensions, which are slightly higher than Dominants. The sound has a lot of brilliance and edge on my violin, whereas Tziganes are a rich, complex sound (but they are brutally short-lived). I would compare Rondo more to EP, PI, and other strings on the very bright end of the spectrum. They have a broader range of tonal colors than EP on my violin, but no matter what, there's a lot of high-frequency edge. They are a bit closer to the way EPGs sound, but with a more open ring and a bit more sharpness of focus. (To get EPGs to work on my violin requires a setup adjustment, too; they have a tendency to squeak otherwise.)
Thanks Lydia! My Luthier suggested Vison Solos or EPG when I saw him yesterday- or Passiones if I want to try gut- which I do but not for my first non-Dominant strings I think.
Rondo will have a bit of bright balance, but are much woodworking sounding than PI, which can be somewhat one-dimensional. So most of the virtues of PI and a huge reduction in the faults.
Lydia, I didn't know that there was a steel A until I looked at the link. I have never seen one. We just use what comes normally, except for the E, usually.
What E’s are you all using with the Rondos? How is the Rondo E itself?
I'm not familiar with strings that sound "woodworking." Is that like fruity? Or mineral?
To me EP sound woodworking - like resawing on a tablesaw or cutting a dado with a router ??
James, I didn't try the Rondo E itself, since I usually swap Es in sets anyway, and I like the Amber E that I normally use. (I'd tried a number of other E strings on this violin previously.)
For me, Rondo E sounded tight and tense. Normally I use PI platinum, but would be willing to experiment to get something a bit warmer.
I am loving the Rondos so far!
Woody. Stupid iphone.
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