How many times a world renowned violinist has upset you?
Hello, specially for you, orchestra players that sometimes play with first class soloists, is it common to be upset after the performance of a first class violinist?
Like you've heard many good things about them, but when you actually play with them you notice their technique is not mind blowing, or the sound is not that great, or the interpretation differs a lot from your understanding of the piece.
Or may be, since I've never been in an orchestra, you don't really pay attention to the soloist because you're focused on your score and parts?
I believe nowadays with YouTube and all it is less of a surprise when a soloist comes to play with your orchestra because you can watch YouTube videos to check him/her out, but anyways, listening to it live is a whole different thing, besides you hear the real thing and not something recorded.
In orchestras, we accompanied many soloists.
Malcolm, for future answers as well, the quality of your music, your ability to perform and understand a piece, has nothing to do with your kindness; sounds a little obvious but you seem to mix both in one.
Professional orchestra players love to complain. Probably the closest I heard to exactly what you suggest was the Boston Symphony and Salvatore Accardo. A long time ago, about when he was getting his name around through his Paganini recordings. One of the string section said some time after a concert that he and his colleagues were not that impressed by his technique. On the other hand, they thought he was nicest man, and they didn't mind working with him for that reason.
Some of them upset me every time I listen to their recordings and realize how good they are.
I've played with two soloists who could be considered first class (one pianist, one violist, not the biggest names but prominent enough to perform with major orchestras fairly regularly) and their performances lived up to their reputations even when playing with a semi-pro orchestra in a smaller city. They were consummate professionals and didn't consider the orchestra or the venue to be beneath them.
I suppose this is a bit OT but Andrew, I really hear you about the younger musicians. My daughter is 8 and she acts so entitled when it comes to music lessons and performance opportunities. I get that she doesn't know any other way of life since she started so young but it still bothers me a lot.
Everyone is entitled to the occasional off day. Yehudi Menuhin had plenty, so one went to his concerts hoping for the best but prepared for less. In about 1976 I heard him play the Beethoven concerto beautifully, only to mess up in one of the Romances.
I think we should strike the occasional memory lapse (usually minor) off the list because it is an unpredictable human thing and happens to everyone at some time or other. It is worth noting that most memory lapses slip past 99% of the audience unnoticed; those of the audience who do notice will likely have been there themselves and will understand.
Steve, one of the ones I played for was Yehudi Menuhin (as he then was).
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