Keeping Violin from Slipping Around
Hi all, first post here. I've been playing bass for 35 years, piano/keys for 30, and guitar for 25. I just got my first violin yesterday, it's a Stagg electric that I figured would be good to get me feet wet with.
First thing I noticed was it slipping around between my chin and shoulder while trying to move around on the fingerboard, would a shoulder rest resolve this issue? If so what would you suggest? Any other suggestions besides a rest are more than welcome!
First a chinrest that really fits YOU! Then a shoulder rest for the underside if there are still gaps. Don't wear silk or satin shirts!
As Andrew wrote: "First a chinrest that really fits YOU!" Once you have done that and the instrument is still sliding around there are a large number of options: shoulder rests can help but only if you really need one, some use a sponge held in place with rubber bands and one creative solution I saw recently: a piece of that rubber mat that they sell in restaurant supply store that they put on trays to keep plates from slipping. Cut a piece that fits where you need it and secure it under the bracket that holds the chin rest.
Andrew Victor any advice for choosing a chin rest that really fits?
Have your teacher or some experienced player help you determine whether you actually need a shoulder rest. Get a comparison. Some players do better without.
Thanks all, The chin rest that came on it is pretty shallow and round, I could use something a little deeper. It slips around on my collar bone as well.
Thanks Andrew Victor! I've experimented with shoulder rests but not chin rests so I will check that out. Thanks for the info.
As far as choosing a chinrest and shoulder rest is concerned, it's pretty much just a trial and error process. You just try a whole bunch of solutions to see what works best for you. And yes, there are definitely things to consider, such as the length of your neck, jaw shape, shoulder size and shape, length of arms, hand size, playing style, etc. By the way,some excellent advice was given above.
I've seen people use the rubber mat (that George Wells mentioned) both with and without shoulder rests; I've seen several people wrap a piece around a shoulder rest for extra grip.
Wittner Augsburg is height and tilt adjustable depending on what spacers you use with it. And it sells for under $30.
Jeffrey just a piece of chamois leather might already do the trick. Drape it over your chin rest and the front of the violin so the chamois is between your collarbone and the violin. You can get them in auto shops (car lovers use them to dry their cars :-). Buy a piece and cut the size you need with scissors.
Thanks Jean, I have a chamois already and will give it a try.
Get some contact cement and glue it to your concert shirt.
You asked whether an SR would keep your violin from shifting around. This is precisely why I use one. Some violinists talk about the "freedom" of having their violin bobbling all over the place while they play. I prefer the freedom of being able to concentrate on other stuff.
I used shoulder rests for violin playing from my 30s and on into my 70s. After that I found them too restricting. I still like the way a shoulder rest fills the gap from the bottom of the fiddle to my shoulder and have found that the AcoustaGrip does the job well for me for violin playing. More and more of the other people I play with now use AcoustaGrip too.
Paul Deck, Using no rest feels very un-natural to me so I'm definitely going to get a padded SR. I'm just starting out so I'm sure I'll try lots of things.