Shoulder rest issue
For the past several years, I had been playing with a standard kun shoulder rest. A couple months ago I was finally fed up with the shoulder rest falling off every time I moved my instrument. I went online and found the comfort shoulder cradle, it doesn’t fall off of the violin and I like the way it fits my shoulder. The problem is that I’ve only had the shoulder rest for 2 months maximum, and the padding has already worn out to the point where the plastic is digging into my shoulder and giving me a gnarly bruise. I’ve come up with a temporary fix by wrapping a cleaning rag around the spot, but now the shoulder rest doesn’t fit my shoulder quite so well. Is there any advice, or am I just S.O.L.? Thanks
Hey Brock, I've been designing a shoulder rest for quite some time now (in fact, I'm holding a prototype in my hands at this moment) that will solve this issue, as well as many other issues that have plagued SRs for too long now. In designing this SR, I've realized why no one else has done it: it's extremely hard to make something that works perfectly. It's much easier to make a new SR that is just a new set of compromises. Still, I hope to finish my design within a couple of years, once I feel I have eliminated all compromises.
Google "Gelrest." You can probably adapt one of those chinrest covers to cushion your shoulder rest - and then perhaps cover it with a cloth sleeve to insure longevity. Email the Gelrest company for Steve's advice re. your problem.
Throw it out and buy a Kreddle.
… then throw out the Kreddle too...
Simply use a single long elastics to connect the feet of the Kun SR with one of the C -bout corners. 1st install it between the feet, then pull from the middle and connect with the corner.
I agree with those who suggest putting elastics on with your Kun rest. It's also possible that the feet on your shoulder rest are worn out. You can buy replacement feet for your Kun. Feet do wear out after several years of use.
Thank you guys! I’ll definitely try the rubber band idea
I'd personally suggest to start playing eventually without shoulder rest.
Watch out for unwanted resonances or dampings from rubber bands and the like! Rubber and other elastics may also degrade and break with time. But, not being a shoulder rest user, am I really qualified to give this advice, I wonder?
Shar will sell you all the Kun replacement parts. Not expensive. By the way if you go to ANY Suzuki class you will see all the kids have rubber bands on their shoulder rests from the legs to the lower corners, pretty much regardless of what kind of SR they have.
I had a Kun I used 30 years ago--the thing NEVER fell off. Excellent.
There are 3 reasons I can think of why your Kun keeps falling off: worn or damaged feet in which case you can replace them, too loose a fitting in which case you can slightly bend the feet bracket to obtain a tighter fit or too much pressure on the chin rest in which case you need to relax. That said, fitting wise I have been happy with the Wolf Forte Secondo.
Roger St-Pierre, It doesn't fall off when I am playing (thank goodness), only when bringing it up or down. The feet aren't worn or damaged since it is new, and it is very tightly fit.
Timothy, your adjustment on the Kun is probably just too tight (or maybe just right depending on how you look at it). The OP's is probably just too loose.
Another detail some violinists miss: if you turn violin upside-down with the button facing forward, the right foot of the SR ought to be positioned all the way down to the corner. This will not only secure it, but will also release unnecessary pressure under the treble side and provide more mobility and easier tilt correction. Depending on your physique and the height of SR, your violin may make contact with your collar bone, which is OK.
"Your violin may make contact with your collar bone, which is OK." Only 'OK' Rocky? It used to be de rigour and certainly essential if you want to play restless...
Hi! I work for Kun, so I'm just going to chime in about some stuff that has been brought up on this feed!
I don't suppose we'll ever see any shoulder rest issue being given a rest :)
Erik: that's it! If I angle the rest so it is close to the violin button on the base side, I can pivot it on my shoulder a bit, but it is more likely to fall off.
Jocelyn: perhaps you have the same problem I did (when I still used the Kuhn): I could not get the rest close enough to my neck to sit comfortably on the shoulder. What I did was buy the 3/4 sized Kuhn and then used elastic bands to hold it on, extended to the near-back corner.
I have found that if the feet of a shoulder rest (e.g. Kun) lose their grip but are not visibly worn out, cleaning them with alcohol seems to improve the grip significantly. Just be sure that there is absolutely no alcohol residue left on the shoulder rest before putting it back on the instrument (air dry a good long time).
Re: "nice offer from Emily"
Did they say 'Sorry' too?
I have resorted to using a sponge (more accurately for him foam rubber) under my shirt like Issac Stern used to do. It's made my playing much better and actually helps to bring me closer to playing fully without a shoulder rest.