My violin came with Dominant strings, and then last year I put on Obligatos. My A string has now gone "bad" and I'm wanting to experiment with other warm strings. I have a very loud violin and I want to tone it down. I like the Obligatos, but want something just a little warmer. What are your opinions on Evvah Pirazzis, Violino Pirastro, or Larsen Tzigane? I'm a little wary of Evvah Pirazzis for fear of them not lasting long in tone quality as I have heard many say. Thank you!
Obligatos are about as warm as it gets.
You may find Violinos to be warmer than Obligatos if your violin (and you) likes the lower tension.
Obligatos are pleasantly warm. All of the others that you are mentioning are bright and loud.
I am surprised to hear that Obligatos are the "warmest" out of those choices as I have heard other reviews on those strings to be more of a warm tone. But I do agree that Obligatos are quite warm; still not enough for my violin, tho.
@Adrian Heath @Lydia Leong Thank you for the suggestion of Pirastro Aricore.
you could try gut core like Eudoxa.
Obligatos are warm but with many overtones.
Obligato do not last long, you are right, they're about like Evahs in the department.
@Lyndon Taylor My Obligatos lasted a little under a year. Do keep in mind I am "just" a student, (yet I have a very good quality violin) so I know that's really good longevity for strings.
I think I will try Pirastro Aricore or Eudoxas. If anyone else has different suggestions or thoughts, I would be interested in hearing them!
Passione are quite warm and probably a bit more stable than Eudoxa
If you play 3-4 hrs a week, Obligatos can last a year, its people that play 3-4 hours a day that find them only lasting 2-3 months.
You should bring this to the attention of your luthier because likely the sound post needs to be adjusted as well. With a proper setup Eudoxa sound really nice. There's also the option of getting heavy tension plain gut, but that has a more brighter sound, yet very very rich.
I had D'Addario Kaplan Amo strings on a warm violin which was a no no.It made the sound too warm.
Thank you all for your comments. Does anyone have experience with the Larsen Tzigane strings? According to sharmusic.com, these strings are warmer than obligatos. (Of course, not as warm as Eudoxas)
D'Addario Kaplan Amo,,, hated it! It feels like wound guitar strings
Larsen Tziganes were the most beautiful sounding synthetics I tried, with unmatched resonance and complexity. They are mellow and about as warm as obligatos, but smoother and with a bell sounding resonance that projected far. They did not last long, maybe 6 weeks with 1-2 hours of practice a day. For that reason I never tried them again, because the drop-off in tone was so severe and they sounded like a weak shell of what they once were in less than 2 months.
@Jeff Terflinger Thanks for your thoughts.
Low-tension plain gut.
A word of "warning" about Eudoxa (stiff or otherwise): they are always categorized as "warm"-and they can be-but are definitely "brighter" than Aricore and worn Obligatos (vs new Obligatos, which are edgier and "powerful" sounding.) So if you are "keeping it synthetic", perhaps Aricore is a good option to try-forget that not many use them, if they work for you.
I like Larsen Tzigane strings, for about 3 weeks,,, and then they lose their "sparkle" They are just not durable enough. With the cost of strings, that is also an important consideration, IMHO.
@Thierno Diallo Wow! Thanks for letting me know...I may still take the risk and try them, just to see how they work for me.
@Adalberto Valle-Rivera Very interesting, thanks! So you wouldn't necessarily recommend Eudoxas for me?
@Jeff Terflinger Hmm...so you would include those in the department of Evah Pirazzis (talking about longevity)
Ok, I'm going to circle around again. Since Larsen Tzigane don't last long, what about Pirastro Violino?
Among the less expensive choices, I have had good results from those Pirastro Violino strings. I believe they were designed to optimize the response from the typical student-grade instruments. For less expensive "warm" strings; try Warchal Karneol, or slightly more $ , Amber.
Amber are good but I find them on the dry side.
@ Ruth Hawkins. For me Evah Pirazzi sound powerful and brilliant, but after a month the "A" string gets weak at the contact points and the sound falls off very quickly. I agree with Joel concerning Violino & Karneols. Good advise.
@joel quivey I am willing to go for more expensive strings as I do not have a student-grade violin. Thanks so much for the info.
When I tried Violinos, they lasted awhile, and there was nothing student-like about them.
@Andrew Holland Thanks, that's very helpful!
I also used Tzigane, and I loved them for the two weeks or so that they lasted. Then the sound died. Made me sad. Note, however, that they were
@Lydia Leong Hmm...it could be that I'm just finding it loud under the ear. I have only been playing for 4 years, so most would consider me an amatuer. (although I have progressed quite quickly) But I've had colleagues/friends that have said my violin seems to be loud. Again, I do NOT have a student-grade violin. So, what's your recommendation? (I know that's probably hard to say, seeing you haven't played or heard my violin). Someone here suggested my sound post might need to be moved? Would that be true?
If you liked your sound with Obligatos, it may be best to stick with them. The other brands you mentioned are brighter on most violins.
Hi Lydia - I believe a rep at Pirastro had told me through email several years ago that they felt their Violino was their closest synthetic to Eudoxa in sound and response.
@Lydia Leong I have an Otto Benjamin by Eastman Strings, model ML300 which retails for around $1200, I believe. https://reverb.com/item/7147764-otto-benjamin-ml-300-series-violin-outfit-regular-4-4-size?
I found this and though it might be helpful in better determining which strings to buy. He reviews Warchal, Thomastik and others.
Ruth, thanks for that info. That's definitely a student violin, and on the relatively inexpensive side of student violins. You can think of student violins -- really another name for factory and workshop-made instruments -- as being in the following rough tiers: the sub-$300 VSO, an entry-level outfit at about $700, a reasonably decent outfit and common rental level at about $1200, and higher-end workshop violins in the $2000 - $4,500 range. (Starting at about the $4k level, there are individually-made violins, with a kind of gray zone of apprentice-made and unidentifiable-individual-maker violins and the like until about the $10k mark, which is a clearer demarcation point for professional instruments.)