Intonation Practice/Training Audio Sources
I bought a MP3 library of scales being played by a violinist, from Amazon. Except it didn't have the G Major scale. Had all the others. Frustrating. Before I go buy another from someone else, I have two questions.
1) Is this a useful way to do this, i.e. play the scales on my violin along with the mp3.
2) Another set of MP3 tracks sounded like it was done with a synthesizer, which means tempered tuning. Would that be a less than optimal source to use? Plus, it sounds like a synthesizer, buzzy and all, and not like a violin. No overtones, etc.
1) I recommend imitating four or five note segments, rather than playing along with the sound file (where differences are hard to evaluate). Playing along with harmonised music is very beneficial, however.
I think it's useful esp in the beginning. Ultimately, you'll need to determine if you're in tune by your ears alone.
Just use a piano...
Thanks. I was able to get Amazon to refund my money since 4 scales were missing off that product, and one was duplicated. They also were not in order. Or the order was nonsensical. Wasn't circle of 5ths, wasn't alphabetical.
@Horace, I downloaded those apps. Thanks.
Drones have also been mentioned before. I could get you some mean bagpipes in any key you want :) I think I'm in tune until I look at my digital tuner.I'm usually slightly off....out of tune I mean.
I also use drones. The app "Tonal Energy Tuner" has a way to set up drones with different instrument sounds (I use the tonic and dominant for a particular key, with the "english horn" sound) along with a metronome, for scale practice.
@Horace, I went to try to use those ABRSM apps, which I thought were free, and they are almost unusable until you start chucking out $$$ to get functionality.
Timothy, thanks for the offer of bagpipe abuse, er, I mean, help. That might be better than what I've been doing, following worker bees around trying to guess what key they are in.
I will look into putting some drone tracks up. Bagpipes are a bit unique in tuning but they can be electronically altered to any pitch.
Fiddlerman has some free drones tuned to a 440 A: https://fiddlerman.com/fiddle-learning-tools/drones-for-intonation-practice/.
Hey David, try "SmartScales" the app. It's better.
Those Fiddlerman drones are pretty good. I have heard good ones and not so good ones.
@David, the Tonal Energy Tuner can simply be a tuner (in Just intonation, by key, or in Tempered), provides a tone/drone tool with a circle of fifths and a wide range of sounds to choose from, and a comprehensive metronome. Well worth the $4 IMO - it is a great practice tool.
I bought it yesterday. Thank you for your recommendation.
Check out the MusicWrench app on iOS. This is one of the best app for intonation!
@Timothy Smith I've been playing bagpipes for 39 years. It's my main instrument. You're right about them being a bit unique in tuning.
Brent I gotta hand it to you. That is a difficult instrument to play. Interesting how the tuning standard has changed. You don't like the Uileann pipes? :) The ones I've heard seem tough to keep in tune.Nice to meet you!
Thanks Timothy. Have downloaded.
Thanks Timothy. Have downloaded.
In my opinion scale-like studies are just as good as scales for beginning to intermediate players. The main thing is to learn to hear intervals, especially small intervals like half-steps, whole steps, and minor and major thirds. Wohlfahrt, Dont (Op. 20), and Kayser studies come to mind.
@Timothy Smith, don't get me wrong I absolutely love the Uilleann Pipes ( basically the Gaeilge word for Angle used in the context of the elbow ). I have a set myself.
More than welcome David. I hope it helps. I have designs on maybe making some double stops in different configurations and posting the examples up with the notes.. I had once thought those to be more difficult than they really are. They are still difficult for me to attempt to play but if I could hear an example it seems easier.
I found myself playing tunes to the drones. Might even record one or two.:)
BREAKING NEWS: Putting my hearing aid in helps with intonation!!!!
"Also don't agonize over intonation to the exclusion of everything else."
Otherwise, what's the point???? ;-)
Timothy - I checked out your drones, thank you! I like that much better than the drone my tuner will play.
Glad they might be helping Catherine!