Whats are good student to intermediate violins?
About a year ago I thought about getting a new violin from aliexpress in China. People here really poo-pooed that idea. They all said if you don't have a lot of money and want a decent violin get a Gilga. Now I've recently asked about understanding various levels of Gilga's and about half the people poo-pooed Gilgas and said get Scott Caos. It just made me realize I know nothing about violins and am more confused than ever. What are good student to intermediate level violins that are affordable? What about violin styles is there to watch out for, eg Stradivarius vs Maggini? Also is it impossible to get a decent violin from aliexpress? Many have good reviews, though many have mediocre reviews.
Look at Sharmusic. They have a large range of student and intermediate violins in your price range. They are very popular, tried and tested, and every violin there is nicely playable. Their staff also can help you choosing a product if you call. I had the Carlo Lamberti Sonata for $500 and it was fully playable all the way up the fingerboard. Obviously it is a student violin, but it is actually fun and rewarding to play and many people remarked out how beautiful its sound was.They also do rentals and rent-to-own. I know these forums can give you many contradicting opinions, but my advice to you is to stick with something tried and tested when you are in doubt. Best of Luck!
Well I live in Israel. It's hard to get to a music store here, and I think many of the brands would be different. There's a large Russian emigre community here, and they seem to love violin, so I'd imagine many dealers are from Russia, with brands according to their tastes. Everything is over priced in Israel which is why I really want to order a violin from aliexpress. Shipping from the USA is crazy. When I priced shipping a banjo Fedex wanted $800 to $1300. In many cases the Chinese will ship for free, certainly under $100. Also I'm not a serious musician. I'm 36 and dabble in guitar and old time banjo. Just looking for something to have fun with that is decent quality and that I can use to show my toddlers the basics, when they are enough to understand instruction as they are turning 3 soon.
In that case, Aliexpress possibly could be fine for your needs right now, but I doubt it because it is much less reliable than going to a violin dealer. I started on a cheap violin( or VSO) for $100 from amazon.com and even though the listing said it had an ebony fingerboard, that turned out to be a lie and within two weeks I knew it was unplayable trash from trying to play it, and upgraded to the $500 one from shar. Aliexpress is the same way. Just do your diligence to make sure the fingerboard/fittings are ebony, top is spruce, back and sides are maple, so you know it is not a VSO, and inspect the violin when you receive it to make sure it's all good. You may end up spending a similar amount as at the dealer for an online violin that actually works like it should. I recommend Gliga or a dealer near you if you can.
Gliga vs Scott Cao is a matter of taste (when comparing similar price levels). They are both reputable brands. Both are far better than anything you'll get from AliExpress. Maybe there are a few decent violins on AliExpress, but they're floating in a sea of barely functional violin-shaped objects so the likelihood of actually getting the decent ones is almost nil.
In this forum there is a common habit amongst many people, including myself. No matter which level of violin quality you'll ask us about, we'll certainly tell you the obvious - that for a little more of money you'll get something slightly better. So what...
And it definitely isn't only about the quality of the violin - in this range the quality of setup matters as much.
Some would say that the answer to your question is, "There aren't any." But of course that's unresponsive and snarky.
Gliga is a perfectly fine brand. It's just not a good brand for
If you approach violin buying just like you would buy a mobile phone, you will get exactly what you paid for - a brand.
Like I said before, Gliga will suit your purpose just fine.
Gligas are good student violins. I have a Gems 1 antiqued violin with a warm and balanced tone. I've been playing for several years and have not needed to upgrade. I primarily play baroque and Eastern European folk.
I think one reason people got disappointed with Gliga, is that they set their expection too high when buying them. Because they are 'made in Romania'. But 'Romanian' isn't 'Italian' or 'German'; they're not in the same league.
@Lydia Leong there are some music store chains that carry a few brand name violins. I'm sure there are small shops run by Russians expats that have specific focus in violins. I haven't really looked simply because in Israel everything is over priced and selection small. I'd rather just find a reputed brand like Gliga or Cao and order one from abroad.
There's a lot to be said for buying something you can actually try.
bryan, just buy one in one of these local shops you mention. for the same price you can get something that will be guaranteed to be decent and set-up decently. that selection is small in these shops need not be a problem, as long as there is something in your price range, which there should. also, ask the shopkeeper (or someone who helps them) to play the violin for you.
And you still did not figured that is called Gliga not Gilga :) People I know are happy with them, but I do not have any suggestions about the other brands :/
When you say a Gliga is dark, does this mean muted in some way? My ear is sensitive to bright violins (irritate me), though my hearing is more flexible the older I get and the worse it gets.
Here I found a shop in Israel that carries the Gliga Genova, which I think has nice balance of price and quality. It's almost $1000 here, while on the Gliga USA site, it is around $600. So it's really not worth my while to buy a violin in Israel.
But the $600 Gliga is going to need $200 of professional set up to make it properly playing, the $1000 offering hopefully already has that.
This is that kind of certificate which you can nail on one of your toilet walls...
David wrote, "When you say a Gliga is dark, does this mean muted in some way?"
If you're near Jerusalum you might try this shop "Jerusalem Violins" http://lev.zapages.co.il/
In Europe it is quite easy to get a good playable violin in the price range of 600-1000. I own one, it was 600 euros, bought from Helsinki, out capital from the best luthier and it is fine. Im quite sure you are looking for a violin like that. It is a chinese model, which the luthier gets shipped from a partner maker in China and they set them up themselves. So as Europe is more or less the same market zone, Im sure there are many and many really good luthiers that sell the similar kind of violins in the price range of 600-1000.
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